[SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's weekend) - how to broaden appeal?

Mon Jan 18 11:03:08 PST 2021

Turns out I *can* figure out who the juniors are using the membership type
field!  The folks I spot-checked had just slipped out of junior status.
So, I've added a Juniors points race as well. :)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:05 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Right, Intermediate/Novice.  Basically, folks under 300 points.
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> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:40 AM Carlyn Gauen <cgauen8 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> What is I/N?    Just now figured out that it might be Intermediate /
>> Novice.   Am I right?
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>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:35 AM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I think I/N limited games are great ideas for us to consider for our
>> future virtual tournaments, but we are pretty loaded with tasks and
>> logistics for the February event as is. I'd prefer not to add another
>> manually run event to the February weekend plans at this stage.  We are
>> already very tight on having time to promote this, especially for a team
>> game given that players have to find not one but three additional folks to
>> play. If I have to hold publicity much longer so we can settle in on
>> details for an I/N event, I don't think we'll get adequate participation to
>> have made it worthwhile.
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>> I also continue to be concerned about scheduling contingent with club
>> games (which Friday afternoon would be), and I think that needs to be an
>> ongoing consideration with these virtual events. My understanding is that
>> participation in the BBO ACBL club games is dropping nationally though our
>> local clubs have been able to hold relatively steady.  I'd prefer for us to
>> maintain that trend in our area.
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>> As for any other I/N events, I look forward to proposals brought to the
>> board.  Let me know ~1 week before a meeting if you're (general you; any of
>> y'all) bringing a proposal, and I'll make sure it gets on the agenda.
>>
>> JC :)
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>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:28 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> And, it might make sense to develop a I/N game for Friday nights we
>>> don't do the Homestyle Swiss...to get them interested in playing in a safe
>>> environment....we can start with the folks who play in the limited game.
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>>> I spent 3 hours yesterday helping an 80 year old woman who used to play
>>> f2f bridge at some of the community centers.  She wanted to get onto BBO
>>> (we did not succeed, a long story, basically because she does not have her
>>> email set up and you need email for verification from BBO.  Instead I set
>>> her up on OKBridge for now....  But I know there are others 'out there'
>>> like her, who need help either with the internet or bbo in some why.
>>> Another 80 year old, A player btw, doens't know how to use BBO for a
>>> postmortem.  If she doesn't know, I bet there are a lot of others out there
>>> who don't know how to take advantage of the various systems/tools/ out
>>> there for us to use.  It would pay to offer tutorials or webinars on these
>>> topics, or run articles in the SUN.
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>>> Ann Romeo
>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:22 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> And lots of kids who may be willing to make the jump to tournament
>>>> bridge.  If we pitch it right, an I/N sectional might be VERY popular this
>>>> fall.
>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> And Barb Nist's limited Mercer Island games.
>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We used to have an I/N chair to push these types of things for
>>>>>> newbies thru (I think Susan, me, David D, Patti were on it last).  This is
>>>>>> a really important committee--even more so in Covid times.  There are LOTS
>>>>>> of new players out there--take a look at the MiniMc and the Ace of C for
>>>>>> the unit, folks with 0-300 points....lots of new names, coming up in the
>>>>>> limited games at SBC and ESBC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM Susan Cothern <
>>>>>> 4susancothern at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> I like the idea of a captains game and I think the C players would
>>>>>>> like a chance to play with a more experienced player.  Both of Ann's ideas
>>>>>>> are worth looking at further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Susan
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>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> re newbies...why not have a I/N zoom game, on a Friday, with a zoom
>>>>>>>> meet to start, and offer a pairs game for newbies.
>>>>>>>> Of course, we can always do a captains pairs where we team an
>>>>>>>> experienced player with a newbie, but that is really a different type of
>>>>>>>> game and player.
>>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:28 AM Susan Cothern <
>>>>>>>> 4susancothern at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> I think what we have in place or are planning to put in place for
>>>>>>>>> the Jabon and Microsoft trophies is fine.  We need to focus on
>>>>>>>>> events for the C players and newcomers so that they will feel welcome and
>>>>>>>>> that their level players are important to the unit also.  Not that I am
>>>>>>>>> saying the unit does not feel they are important but I am not sure the C
>>>>>>>>> players know that the unit board takes them in to consideration and is
>>>>>>>>> trying to come up with events and or ways to get them more involved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Susan
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>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:33 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, the Microsoft and Jabon trophies literally come with
>>>>>>>>>> nothing other than the recognition. You don't even get to keep the trophy.
>>>>>>>>>> :)  Once you establish a prize, it's hard to take it away later without
>>>>>>>>>> generating disappointment.  Plus, BBO still has no process to gift BBO$,
>>>>>>>>>> nor can our clubs grant free entries through BBO right now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding youth awards, to keep this manageable, we need it to be
>>>>>>>>>> based on information we can easily retrieve.  I considered whether we could
>>>>>>>>>> use the membership type to isolate youth members, but the problem is that
>>>>>>>>>> youth members who are part of their family's membership show up under
>>>>>>>>>> family membership types, not youth. (I verified this on our current
>>>>>>>>>> roster.)  I trust that the ACBL has good reason for not providing DOB to
>>>>>>>>>> units, and I can hypothesize several reasons why it might be that way that
>>>>>>>>>> are not worth challenging right now.
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>>>>>>>>>> If the youth bridge program(s) wanted to track points for their
>>>>>>>>>> participants (i.e., not the whole unit but only kids they have a
>>>>>>>>>> relationship with) and do a "points race" award accordingly, I think that
>>>>>>>>>> would be a good substitute since we can't do a youth race at the unit
>>>>>>>>>> level. Possible idea for our youth liaisons...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --JC
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>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:25 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to check to see if we can actually give away
>>>>>>>>>>> 'money'--make sure it is ok with our state charter and ACBL?
>>>>>>>>>>> And love the idea of a kid's trophy of some sort.  I know that
>>>>>>>>>>> for kids, they have to give their DOB to get their ACBL number, so
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere this is tracked.
>>>>>>>>>>> Love the idea of a flight A/B/C (or some such breakout).
>>>>>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:15 PM Thomas via Sbuboard <
>>>>>>>>>>> sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a great idea, JC.  We could put some money in the winners'
>>>>>>>>>>>> BBO accounts.  Divide $446 by 4 or give each winner $44.60    We're pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> flush, according to Tom B.
>>>>>>>>>>>> TL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2021 8:28 am
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's
>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend) - how to broaden appeal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I was putting together the publicity for the "faux
>>>>>>>>>>>> sectional" we voted on last meeting for Valentine's weekend, I was thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> that one issue here is that unless you're going for the Jabon trophy (0-20)
>>>>>>>>>>>> or Microsoft trophy (top 5% of area players), this event series isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> offering much for you.  At our normal sectionals, we do a lot to make sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's things for I/N and for mid-level players via stratification
>>>>>>>>>>>> and flighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts or how we could make
>>>>>>>>>>>> this interesting or engaging for the broader group of players?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One idea Scott & I were tossing around last night was to create
>>>>>>>>>>>> some "trophy points" races for mid-level and novice players, even though
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's no actual trophy for those groups.  We could use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> GNT flighting/brackets (to avoid any implication that we picked to include
>>>>>>>>>>>> or exclude ourselves in various brackets):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-500
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-2500
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-6000
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So basically, we'd have 5 points races this year. Jabon would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be if you start the year with 0-20. The three above would be for B/C/D.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's the "open" award which is the Microsoft trophy.  And in any
>>>>>>>>>>>> race, you can win the race above your level, just like when you stratify an
>>>>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say we could also establish a youth award, except that the
>>>>>>>>>>>> ACBL rosters don't give us ages, so I can't easily determine who qualifies
>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Web/Email Admin, & Publicity Chair
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>>>>>>>>>> Web/Email Admin, & Publicity Chair
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