[SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's weekend) - how to broaden appeal?

Mon Jan 18 12:26:03 PST 2021

JC, you are a talent and a treasure!
Ann Romeo
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Turns out I *can* figure out who the juniors are using the membership
> type field!  The folks I spot-checked had just slipped out of junior
> status.  So, I've added a Juniors points race as well. :)
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> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 3:05 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Right, Intermediate/Novice.  Basically, folks under 300 points.
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>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:40 AM Carlyn Gauen <cgauen8 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> What is I/N?    Just now figured out that it might be Intermediate /
>>> Novice.   Am I right?
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:35 AM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I think I/N limited games are great ideas for us to consider for our
>>> future virtual tournaments, but we are pretty loaded with tasks and
>>> logistics for the February event as is. I'd prefer not to add another
>>> manually run event to the February weekend plans at this stage.  We are
>>> already very tight on having time to promote this, especially for a team
>>> game given that players have to find not one but three additional folks to
>>> play. If I have to hold publicity much longer so we can settle in on
>>> details for an I/N event, I don't think we'll get adequate participation to
>>> have made it worthwhile.
>>>
>>> I also continue to be concerned about scheduling contingent with club
>>> games (which Friday afternoon would be), and I think that needs to be an
>>> ongoing consideration with these virtual events. My understanding is that
>>> participation in the BBO ACBL club games is dropping nationally though our
>>> local clubs have been able to hold relatively steady.  I'd prefer for us to
>>> maintain that trend in our area.
>>>
>>> As for any other I/N events, I look forward to proposals brought to the
>>> board.  Let me know ~1 week before a meeting if you're (general you; any of
>>> y'all) bringing a proposal, and I'll make sure it gets on the agenda.
>>>
>>> JC :)
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>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:28 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And, it might make sense to develop a I/N game for Friday nights we
>>>> don't do the Homestyle Swiss...to get them interested in playing in a safe
>>>> environment....we can start with the folks who play in the limited game.
>>>>
>>>> I spent 3 hours yesterday helping an 80 year old woman who used to play
>>>> f2f bridge at some of the community centers.  She wanted to get onto BBO
>>>> (we did not succeed, a long story, basically because she does not have her
>>>> email set up and you need email for verification from BBO.  Instead I set
>>>> her up on OKBridge for now....  But I know there are others 'out there'
>>>> like her, who need help either with the internet or bbo in some why.
>>>> Another 80 year old, A player btw, doens't know how to use BBO for a
>>>> postmortem.  If she doesn't know, I bet there are a lot of others out there
>>>> who don't know how to take advantage of the various systems/tools/ out
>>>> there for us to use.  It would pay to offer tutorials or webinars on these
>>>> topics, or run articles in the SUN.
>>>>
>>>> A
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>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:22 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> And lots of kids who may be willing to make the jump to tournament
>>>>> bridge.  If we pitch it right, an I/N sectional might be VERY popular this
>>>>> fall.
>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And Barb Nist's limited Mercer Island games.
>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used to have an I/N chair to push these types of things for
>>>>>>> newbies thru (I think Susan, me, David D, Patti were on it last).  This is
>>>>>>> a really important committee--even more so in Covid times.  There are LOTS
>>>>>>> of new players out there--take a look at the MiniMc and the Ace of C for
>>>>>>> the unit, folks with 0-300 points....lots of new names, coming up in the
>>>>>>> limited games at SBC and ESBC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM Susan Cothern <
>>>>>>> 4susancothern at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the idea of a captains game and I think the C players would
>>>>>>>> like a chance to play with a more experienced player.  Both of Ann's ideas
>>>>>>>> are worth looking at further.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> re newbies...why not have a I/N zoom game, on a Friday, with a
>>>>>>>>> zoom meet to start, and offer a pairs game for newbies.
>>>>>>>>> Of course, we can always do a captains pairs where we team an
>>>>>>>>> experienced player with a newbie, but that is really a different type of
>>>>>>>>> game and player.
>>>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:28 AM Susan Cothern <
>>>>>>>>> 4susancothern at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think what we have in place or are planning to put in place for
>>>>>>>>>> the Jabon and Microsoft trophies is fine.  We need to focus on
>>>>>>>>>> events for the C players and newcomers so that they will feel welcome and
>>>>>>>>>> that their level players are important to the unit also.  Not that I am
>>>>>>>>>> saying the unit does not feel they are important but I am not sure the C
>>>>>>>>>> players know that the unit board takes them in to consideration and is
>>>>>>>>>> trying to come up with events and or ways to get them more involved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:33 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, the Microsoft and Jabon trophies literally come with
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing other than the recognition. You don't even get to keep the trophy.
>>>>>>>>>>> :)  Once you establish a prize, it's hard to take it away later without
>>>>>>>>>>> generating disappointment.  Plus, BBO still has no process to gift BBO$,
>>>>>>>>>>> nor can our clubs grant free entries through BBO right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding youth awards, to keep this manageable, we need it to
>>>>>>>>>>> be based on information we can easily retrieve.  I considered whether we
>>>>>>>>>>> could use the membership type to isolate youth members, but the problem is
>>>>>>>>>>> that youth members who are part of their family's membership show up under
>>>>>>>>>>> family membership types, not youth. (I verified this on our current
>>>>>>>>>>> roster.)  I trust that the ACBL has good reason for not providing DOB to
>>>>>>>>>>> units, and I can hypothesize several reasons why it might be that way that
>>>>>>>>>>> are not worth challenging right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If the youth bridge program(s) wanted to track points for their
>>>>>>>>>>> participants (i.e., not the whole unit but only kids they have a
>>>>>>>>>>> relationship with) and do a "points race" award accordingly, I think that
>>>>>>>>>>> would be a good substitute since we can't do a youth race at the unit
>>>>>>>>>>> level. Possible idea for our youth liaisons...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --JC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:25 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to check to see if we can actually give away
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'money'--make sure it is ok with our state charter and ACBL?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And love the idea of a kid's trophy of some sort.  I know that
>>>>>>>>>>>> for kids, they have to give their DOB to get their ACBL number, so
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhere this is tracked.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the idea of a flight A/B/C (or some such breakout).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:15 PM Thomas via Sbuboard <
>>>>>>>>>>>> sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a great idea, JC.  We could put some money in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> winners' BBO accounts.  Divide $446 by 4 or give each winner $44.60
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're pretty flush, according to Tom B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2021 8:28 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend) - how to broaden appeal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I was putting together the publicity for the "faux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectional" we voted on last meeting for Valentine's weekend, I was thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that one issue here is that unless you're going for the Jabon trophy (0-20)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Microsoft trophy (top 5% of area players), this event series isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> offering much for you.  At our normal sectionals, we do a lot to make sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's things for I/N and for mid-level players via stratification
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and flighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts or how we could make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this interesting or engaging for the broader group of players?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One idea Scott & I were tossing around last night was to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create some "trophy points" races for mid-level and novice players, even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though there's no actual trophy for those groups.  We could use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GNT flighting/brackets (to avoid any implication that we picked to include
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or exclude ourselves in various brackets):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-2500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-6000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So basically, we'd have 5 points races this year. Jabon would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be if you start the year with 0-20. The three above would be for B/C/D.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there's the "open" award which is the Microsoft trophy.  And in any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> race, you can win the race above your level, just like when you stratify an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say we could also establish a youth award, except that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ACBL rosters don't give us ages, so I can't easily determine who qualifies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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