[SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's weekend) - how to broaden appeal?

Sun Jan 17 15:04:47 PST 2021

Right, Intermediate/Novice.  Basically, folks under 300 points.
Ann Romeo
Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
Local home: 206-526-0871
My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 10:40 AM Carlyn Gauen <cgauen8 at gmail.com> wrote:

> What is I/N?    Just now figured out that it might be Intermediate /
> Novice.   Am I right?
>
> On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:35 AM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think I/N limited games are great ideas for us to consider for our
> future virtual tournaments, but we are pretty loaded with tasks and
> logistics for the February event as is. I'd prefer not to add another
> manually run event to the February weekend plans at this stage.  We are
> already very tight on having time to promote this, especially for a team
> game given that players have to find not one but three additional folks to
> play. If I have to hold publicity much longer so we can settle in on
> details for an I/N event, I don't think we'll get adequate participation to
> have made it worthwhile.
>
> I also continue to be concerned about scheduling contingent with club
> games (which Friday afternoon would be), and I think that needs to be an
> ongoing consideration with these virtual events. My understanding is that
> participation in the BBO ACBL club games is dropping nationally though our
> local clubs have been able to hold relatively steady.  I'd prefer for us to
> maintain that trend in our area.
>
> As for any other I/N events, I look forward to proposals brought to the
> board.  Let me know ~1 week before a meeting if you're (general you; any of
> y'all) bringing a proposal, and I'll make sure it gets on the agenda.
>
> JC :)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:28 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And, it might make sense to develop a I/N game for Friday nights we don't
>> do the Homestyle Swiss...to get them interested in playing in a safe
>> environment....we can start with the folks who play in the limited game.
>>
>> I spent 3 hours yesterday helping an 80 year old woman who used to play
>> f2f bridge at some of the community centers.  She wanted to get onto BBO
>> (we did not succeed, a long story, basically because she does not have her
>> email set up and you need email for verification from BBO.  Instead I set
>> her up on OKBridge for now....  But I know there are others 'out there'
>> like her, who need help either with the internet or bbo in some why.
>> Another 80 year old, A player btw, doens't know how to use BBO for a
>> postmortem.  If she doesn't know, I bet there are a lot of others out there
>> who don't know how to take advantage of the various systems/tools/ out
>> there for us to use.  It would pay to offer tutorials or webinars on these
>> topics, or run articles in the SUN.
>>
>> A
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>> Ann Romeo
>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:22 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> And lots of kids who may be willing to make the jump to tournament
>>> bridge.  If we pitch it right, an I/N sectional might be VERY popular this
>>> fall.
>>> Ann Romeo
>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>
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>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And Barb Nist's limited Mercer Island games.
>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>>
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 6:20 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We used to have an I/N chair to push these types of things for
>>>>> newbies thru (I think Susan, me, David D, Patti were on it last).  This is
>>>>> a really important committee--even more so in Covid times.  There are LOTS
>>>>> of new players out there--take a look at the MiniMc and the Ace of C for
>>>>> the unit, folks with 0-300 points....lots of new names, coming up in the
>>>>> limited games at SBC and ESBC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM Susan Cothern <4susancothern at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the idea of a captains game and I think the C players would
>>>>>> like a chance to play with a more experienced player.  Both of Ann's ideas
>>>>>> are worth looking at further.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> re newbies...why not have a I/N zoom game, on a Friday, with a zoom
>>>>>>> meet to start, and offer a pairs game for newbies.
>>>>>>> Of course, we can always do a captains pairs where we team an
>>>>>>> experienced player with a newbie, but that is really a different type of
>>>>>>> game and player.
>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 11:28 AM Susan Cothern <
>>>>>>> 4susancothern at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think what we have in place or are planning to put in place for
>>>>>>>> the Jabon and Microsoft trophies is fine.  We need to focus on
>>>>>>>> events for the C players and newcomers so that they will feel welcome and
>>>>>>>> that their level players are important to the unit also.  Not that I am
>>>>>>>> saying the unit does not feel they are important but I am not sure the C
>>>>>>>> players know that the unit board takes them in to consideration and is
>>>>>>>> trying to come up with events and or ways to get them more involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:33 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FWIW, the Microsoft and Jabon trophies literally come with nothing
>>>>>>>>> other than the recognition. You don't even get to keep the trophy. :)  Once
>>>>>>>>> you establish a prize, it's hard to take it away later without generating
>>>>>>>>> disappointment.  Plus, BBO still has no process to gift BBO$, nor can our
>>>>>>>>> clubs grant free entries through BBO right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding youth awards, to keep this manageable, we need it to be
>>>>>>>>> based on information we can easily retrieve.  I considered whether we could
>>>>>>>>> use the membership type to isolate youth members, but the problem is that
>>>>>>>>> youth members who are part of their family's membership show up under
>>>>>>>>> family membership types, not youth. (I verified this on our current
>>>>>>>>> roster.)  I trust that the ACBL has good reason for not providing DOB to
>>>>>>>>> units, and I can hypothesize several reasons why it might be that way that
>>>>>>>>> are not worth challenging right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the youth bridge program(s) wanted to track points for their
>>>>>>>>> participants (i.e., not the whole unit but only kids they have a
>>>>>>>>> relationship with) and do a "points race" award accordingly, I think that
>>>>>>>>> would be a good substitute since we can't do a youth race at the unit
>>>>>>>>> level. Possible idea for our youth liaisons...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --JC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:25 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think we need to check to see if we can actually give away
>>>>>>>>>> 'money'--make sure it is ok with our state charter and ACBL?
>>>>>>>>>> And love the idea of a kid's trophy of some sort.  I know that
>>>>>>>>>> for kids, they have to give their DOB to get their ACBL number, so
>>>>>>>>>> somewhere this is tracked.
>>>>>>>>>> Love the idea of a flight A/B/C (or some such breakout).
>>>>>>>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>>>>>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>>>>>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:15 PM Thomas via Sbuboard <
>>>>>>>>>> sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a great idea, JC.  We could put some money in the winners'
>>>>>>>>>>> BBO accounts.  Divide $446 by 4 or give each winner $44.60    We're pretty
>>>>>>>>>>> flush, according to Tom B.
>>>>>>>>>>> TL
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Jan 11, 2021 8:28 am
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's weekend)
>>>>>>>>>>> - how to broaden appeal?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I was putting together the publicity for the "faux sectional"
>>>>>>>>>>> we voted on last meeting for Valentine's weekend, I was thinking that one
>>>>>>>>>>> issue here is that unless you're going for the Jabon trophy (0-20) or
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft trophy (top 5% of area players), this event series isn't offering
>>>>>>>>>>> much for you.  At our normal sectionals, we do a lot to make sure that
>>>>>>>>>>> there's things for I/N and for mid-level players via stratification and
>>>>>>>>>>> flighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts or how we could make this
>>>>>>>>>>> interesting or engaging for the broader group of players?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One idea Scott & I were tossing around last night was to create
>>>>>>>>>>> some "trophy points" races for mid-level and novice players, even though
>>>>>>>>>>> there's no actual trophy for those groups.  We could use the
>>>>>>>>>>> GNT flighting/brackets (to avoid any implication that we picked to include
>>>>>>>>>>> or exclude ourselves in various brackets):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-500
>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-2500
>>>>>>>>>>>    - 0-6000
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So basically, we'd have 5 points races this year. Jabon would be
>>>>>>>>>>> if you start the year with 0-20. The three above would be for B/C/D.  Then
>>>>>>>>>>> there's the "open" award which is the Microsoft trophy.  And in any race,
>>>>>>>>>>> you can win the race above your level, just like when you stratify an event.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say we could also establish a youth award, except that the
>>>>>>>>>>> ACBL rosters don't give us ages, so I can't easily determine who qualifies
>>>>>>>>>>> for that. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> JC Chupack (she/her)
>>>>>>>>>>> * Seattle ACBL Unit 446 <http://www.bridgeinseattle.org/> President,
>>>>>>>>>>> Web/Email Admin, & Publicity Chair
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>>>>>>>>> Web/Email Admin, & Publicity Chair
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