[SBU Board] FW: Unit Approval Required

Wed Jan 15 09:33:56 PST 2020

And personally, I think that, if we can't have the dates at Bothell, then
the whole thing is sorta moot.
Ann Romeo
Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:23 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:

> My two cents:
> I don't think we should block EBC from participating in ACBL's Senior
> Pairs event because of our sectional.  It's not like we can offer the
> Senior Pairs event at the sectional, and it has notable benefits to players
> that they might be interested in.
> I also don't think we should change our sectional plans because of this,
> e.g., switching to a 2-day event.  But we should acknowledge and recognize
> that attendance may be depressed for that Friday daytime game vs. the norm
> given the ACBL event on the same day.  I don't think it will be devastating
> as we have a decent number of players who will either prefer the sectional
> setup or aren't eligible for senior pairs.
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:53 AM Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that we should (a) talk to Bev at the IUOE again, and see
>> if they can tell us when they will have an answer if they can’t give us one
>> now; and, (b) assuming that Bev’s response doesn’t moot the issue, talk to
>> Paulette, explain the situation, and see what she has to say.  It may be
>> that holding the ACBL event isn’t that important to EBC – or that it is.
>> Either way, we’ll have more information before we try to make a decision;
>> and we can let her know that we’re trying to work the issue for the best
>> outcome for both parties.
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>> I don’t mind calling Paulette, but I think that it would be better for
>> the approach to be made by someone who knows her better than I do.
>>
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>> Monty Gray
>> (206) 369-6444
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>> *From: *Thomas E Land via Sbuboard <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:31 AM
>> *To: *Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>> *Cc: *Thomas E Land <ltom2 at aol.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [SBU Board] FW: Unit Approval Required
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>> I agree, David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 5:01 PM, David Dailey <compass98155 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> My quick thoughts:
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>> I do not think that a club's request to hold an ACBL-wide game is a good
>> reason to change our sectional to a two-day event.
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>> If we wanted to reschedule the Harvest Sectional, how complicated is it
>> to fit in around everything else in the district?  The calendar is not wide
>> open simply because we need to look at alternate dates.
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>> If we move the Harvest Sectional, might we consider the Sat/Sun of
>> October 17/18 prime calendar time for an NLM Regional event, which could
>> more readily be a two-day event?  Or, absent an NLM Regional, an NLM
>> Sectional instead, which very often is only two days anyhow?
>>
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>> I don't think the unit should be in the habit of providing benefits to
>> one club that other clubs do not receive from time to time.  If there is
>> some parity amongst what's awarded to clubs, that's fine.
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>> --David
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>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:23 PM Raymond Miller <raysmiller at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Do we know our timeline for responding to Eastside's request?  IMy
>> initial reaction is to approve this, regardless.  But after some thought
>> I'm worried that this would be bad for non-seniors who would play at the
>> sectional if we had  to go to 2 days.  It would also be somewhat unfair to
>> other clubs.  So I'm not really sure which way we should go on this.
>>
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>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think we can find alternative dates at Bothell that will work.  It is
>> not yet clear, per Bev, that we will have Oct 16-18--they have an internal
>> customer who may be using those dates and they get first crack.  In the
>> meantime, Bev has indicated other dates that are available, and I think it
>> makes sense to see if they can work.  Personally, I hate to say no to
>> ESBC--they do so much for the Unit, and it may be that we can't have that
>> weekend.
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>>
>> Ann Romeo
>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>
>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>> Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>>
>> Work direct dial: 212-463-6331
>>
>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 2:38 PM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> There's basically three ways this can go:
>>
>>    1. We *are *able to confirm IUOE for Oct 16-18.  (Best case scenario
>>    for the sectional)
>>    2. We *aren't* able to book IUOE for Oct 16-18 but are able to book
>>    another dateset with them that we can work with.
>>    3. We *aren't* able to book IUOE for Oct 16-18 and need to find a new
>>    venue for those dates.
>>
>> We have the option as a unit to block EBC (and any other club considered
>> nearby) from holding ACBL-wide events and/or special events during the
>> sectional when they are not part of the club's regularly scheduled games.  *Would
>> we want to exercise that option for this request for senior pairs during
>> the Friday of our fall sectional if the conflict remains (scenarios 1 & 3
>> above)? * I'd like the board to weigh in on this sooner rather than
>> later so that Monty, Ann, and I can move quickly to notify and work with
>> Paulette/EBC and the ACBL once we have a confident answer on the sectional
>> date/timing.
>>
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>> (Also, if the board decides that we wouldn't want to block the request
>> regardless, it becomes a moot point and we can respond to approve.)
>>
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>> --JC
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>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just received the message below, asking us whether the Unit has any
>> objection to Eastside Bridge Club’s participation in the ACBL-wide senior
>> pairs event on October 16.  This date is the Friday of the preferred
>> weekend for our fall sectional, but we do not yet have confirmation that
>> the IUOE Hall will be available to us that weekend.
>>
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>> Your thoughts?  Should we ask Paulette how important this is to EBC (and
>> if so, are there any volunteers to approach her)?  Can we get the Union to
>> expedite its decision-making?  Should we consent and be prepared to accept
>> the conflict if necessary?  Would EBC still want to go forward if the
>> Sectional were going forward at the same time?  Should we be prepared to
>> shorten the Sectional to a 2-day event?  Other ideas or questions?
>>
>>
>>
>> Monty Gray
>> (206) 369-6444
>>
>>
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>> *From: *ACBL Special Games <specialevents at acbl.org>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:26 AM
>> *To: *mlgrayjr at gmail.com
>> *Subject: *Unit Approval Required
>>
>>
>>
>> *American Contract Bridge League *
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>> Dear Monty Gray /ACBL Unit 446 Secretary:
>>
>> We have received notification that Eastside Bridge Center Inc, club#
>> 130260, club manager: Paulette Hauck, would like to host the following
>> game(s):
>> October 16, 2020 ACBL-WIDE SENIOR PAIRS GAME #2 FRI AFT
>>
>> This game must be held on the specific date and session. This club does
>> not hold regularly scheduled sessions for the time of this event. Please
>> let us know if the Unit objects to this club holding this special game.
>>
>> Unit approval is normally automatic, unless there is a Regional in the
>> District or a Sectional within twenty-five miles. Also, the above game
>> should not conflict with a neighboring club that does have a sanctioned
>> session for the date and time specified, and is also hosting the above
>> event.
>>
>> There is no need to reply if the unit does not object. Please choose the
>> Reply with history option or make sure to include the event.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your assistance. If you have any questions or
>> need assistance, please feel free to contact me anytime.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Sherry Terraciano
>> Special Events Coordinator
>> American Contract Bridge League
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