OT: Tracer/routing question
David A. Bandel
david.bandel at gmail.com
Sat Jun 15 08:24:46 PDT 2013
Whoa. You've given two different and distinct sites:
david at alanje:~$ dig +short myloweslife.com
168.244.164.134
david at alanje:~$ dig +short www.myloweslife.com
168.244.164.81
So where do you really need to go?
david at alanje:~$ tcptraceroute www.myloweslife.com
Selected device eth0, address 172.16.1.34, port 55985 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to www.myloweslife.com (168.244.164.81) on TCP port 80
(http), 30 hops max
1 172.16.0.1 1.164 ms 0.883 ms 0.663 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 * * *
6 12.83.86.97 21.403 ms 23.963 ms 24.808 ms
7 gar24.attga.ip.att.net (12.122.141.53) 45.265 ms 47.286 ms 46.973 ms
8 12.250.41.6 48.945 ms 48.787 ms 48.257 ms
9 * * *
10 168.244.164.81 [open] 50.012 ms * *
traceroute to www.myloweslife.com (168.244.164.81), 30 hops max, 60 byte
packets
1 172.16.0.1 13.079 ms 13.067 ms 13.051 ms
2 107.213.84.3 48.998 ms 49.015 ms 49.005 ms
3 * * *
4 * * *
5 * * *
6 12.83.36.5 40.195 ms 30.399 ms 12.83.86.97 27.944 ms
7 12.122.141.53 50.522 ms 48.056 ms 47.246 ms
8 12.250.41.6 49.282 ms 51.822 ms 51.826 ms
9 * * *
10 * * *
david at alanje:~$ ping www.myloweslife.com
PING www.myloweslife.com (168.244.164.81) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- www.myloweslife.com ping statistics ---
8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7057ms
david at alanje:~$ wget www.myloweslife.com
--2013-06-15 10:19:35-- http://www.myloweslife.com/
Resolving www.myloweslife.com (www.myloweslife.com)... 168.244.164.81
Connecting to www.myloweslife.com (www.myloweslife.com)|168.244.164.81|:80...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://www.myloweslife.com/ [following]
--2013-06-15 10:19:35-- https://www.myloweslife.com/
WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to:
/home/david/.cache/keyring-DfQFQs/pkcs11: No such file or directory
Connecting to www.myloweslife.com (www.myloweslife.com)|168.244.164.81|:443...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/ [following]
--2013-06-15 10:19:36-- https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/
Reusing existing connection to www.myloweslife.com:443.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location:
https://www.myloweslife.com:443/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22[following]
--2013-06-15 10:19:36--
https://www.myloweslife.com/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22
Reusing existing connection to www.myloweslife.com:443.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily
Location:
https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D[following]
--2013-06-15 10:19:36--
https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D
Resolving idp.myloweslife.com (idp.myloweslife.com)... 168.244.164.136
Connecting to idp.myloweslife.com (idp.myloweslife.com)|168.244.164.136|:443...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6758 (6.6K) [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html’
100%[======================================>] 6,758 --.-K/s in 0s
2013-06-15 10:19:37 (57.3 MB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [6758/6758]
Well, that's telling.
So trace and ping don't work, but a connection does -- to
WWW.myloweslife.com. I have not tried the myloweslife.com site (which has a
different IP).
The "baseline" I mentioned is just knowing the hops/hopcount to wherever
you're going.
Hope that helps,
David A. Bandel
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rick Bowers <rwbowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply, David.
>
> I don't know what may lie between the last accessible IP (74.202.159.238)
> and my target IP (168.244.164.134). Isn't that the purpose behind (dynamic)
> routing? An end user doesn't need to know the route to their destination.
>
> I assume a "real" OS == linux. I'll try tcptraceroute on my linux box when
> I get home Sunday evening.
>
> When you say I need a baseline to go from. what do you mean?
>
> The only real information I have is that I need to connect my browser to
> www.myloweslife.com and that attempt fails. I tried tracert in order to
> try to determine what was going on behind the scenes. Obviously, that form
> of troubleshooting is (no longer) reasonable.
>
> Do you have any suggestions on how to figure out why I may not be able to
> browse to that site? HR tells me there shouldn't be a problem and claims
> nobody else has connection problems. I'm stumped.
>
> ~Rick
>
>
> At 6/14/2013 11:53 PM, you wrote:
>
> Hey Rick,
>
> This depends. Do you know where the IP is you're trying to reach in
> relation to the last IP shown?
>
> It is common today for clueless admins to block ping packets (M$ uses ping
> vice UDP packets for tracing). You might also be hitting transit routes
> for the last hop or two. These transit routes are private IPs that can't
> respond back to you, but do pass packets through (those that haven't
> reached their TTL/hop limit).
>
> So there may be no "block" to get past. You really do need to have a
> baseline to go from. Try using a tcp trace (a la tcptraceroute), they
> usually have less problems, but you'll need a real OS for that.
>
> Ciao,
>
> David A. Bandel
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Rick Bowers <rwbowers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Off-topic question, but I know there is expertise here on this list.
>
> I've been trying to connect to www.myloweslife.com but the site
> continually times out. I've tried multiple times over the past week
> with no success.
>
> I tried running a tracert (Windows version of traceroute) several
> times and seem to always time out at the same point. (output below)
>
> I'm not sure exactly what this means, or who to contact to get past
> the "block".
>
> - Does this indicate a broken route? Down system?
> - Can I contact someone to help? Who? My ISP (Verizon
> FIOS)? twtelecom.net (Time Warner)?
>
> C:\>tracert myloweslife.com
>
> Tracing route to myloweslife.com [168.244.164.134]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 2 ms 3 ms 3
> ms Wireless_Broadband_Router.somewhereunknown.net [192.168.1.1]
> 2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms L100.BSTNMA-VFTTP-77.verizon-gni.net
> [98.110.224.1]
> 3 8 ms 10 ms 9
> ms G0-14-2-6.BSTNMA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.217.110]
> 4 6 ms 5 ms 6 ms ae0-0.BOS-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net
> [130.81.209.94]
> 5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 0.xe-10-0-0.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET[152.63.7.61]
> 6 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 0.xe-11-1-0.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET
> [152.63.35.126]
> 7 23 ms 22 ms 24 ms twtelecom-gw.customer.alter.net
> [152.179.50.186]
> 8 41 ms 40 ms 42 ms gso1-ar1-xe-2-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net
> [66.192.241.46]
> 9 42 ms 42 ms 43 ms 74-202-159-238.static.twtelecom.net
> [74.202.159.238]
> 10 * * * Request timed out.
> 11 * * * Request timed out.
> 12 * * * Request timed out.
> 13 * * * Request timed out.
> 14 * * * Request timed out.
> 15 * * * Request timed out.
> 16 * * * Request timed out.
> 17 * * * Request timed out.
> 18 * * * Request timed out.
> 19 * * * Request timed out.
> 20 * * * Request timed out.
> 21 * * * Request timed out.
> 22 * * * Request timed out.
> 23 * * * Request timed out.
> 24 * * * Request timed out.
> 25 * * * Request timed out.
> 26 * * * Request timed out.
> 27 * * * Request timed out.
> 28 * * * Request timed out.
> 29 * * * Request timed out.
> 30 * * * Request timed out.
>
> Trace complete.
>
> C:\>
>
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