<div dir="ltr">Whoa. You've given two different and distinct sites:<div><div>david@alanje:~$ dig +short <a href="http://myloweslife.com">myloweslife.com</a></div><div>168.244.164.134</div><div>david@alanje:~$ dig +short <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a></div>
<div>168.244.164.81</div></div><div><br></div><div style>So where do you really need to go?</div><div style><div>david@alanje:~$ tcptraceroute <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a></div><div>Selected device eth0, address 172.16.1.34, port 55985 for outgoing packets</div>
<div>Tracing the path to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (168.244.164.81) on TCP port 80 (http), 30 hops max</div><div> 1 172.16.0.1 1.164 ms 0.883 ms 0.663 ms</div><div> 2 * * *</div><div>
3 * * *</div><div> 4 * * *</div><div> 5 * * *</div><div> 6 12.83.86.97 21.403 ms 23.963 ms 24.808 ms</div><div> 7 <a href="http://gar24.attga.ip.att.net">gar24.attga.ip.att.net</a> (12.122.141.53) 45.265 ms 47.286 ms 46.973 ms</div>
<div> 8 12.250.41.6 48.945 ms 48.787 ms 48.257 ms</div><div> 9 * * *</div><div>10 168.244.164.81 [open] 50.012 ms * *</div><div><br></div><div><div>traceroute to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (168.244.164.81), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets</div>
<div> 1 172.16.0.1 13.079 ms 13.067 ms 13.051 ms</div><div> 2 107.213.84.3 48.998 ms 49.015 ms 49.005 ms</div><div> 3 * * *</div><div> 4 * * *</div><div> 5 * * *</div><div> 6 12.83.36.5 40.195 ms 30.399 ms 12.83.86.97 27.944 ms</div>
<div> 7 12.122.141.53 50.522 ms 48.056 ms 47.246 ms</div><div> 8 12.250.41.6 49.282 ms 51.822 ms 51.826 ms</div><div> 9 * * *</div><div>10 * * *</div></div><div><br></div><div><div>david@alanje:~$ ping <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a></div>
<div>PING <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (168.244.164.81) 56(84) bytes of data.</div><div>^C</div><div>--- <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> ping statistics ---</div>
<div>8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7057ms</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div style><div>david@alanje:~$ wget <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a></div><div>
--2013-06-15 10:19:35-- <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com/">http://www.myloweslife.com/</a></div><div>Resolving <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (<a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a>)... 168.244.164.81</div>
<div>Connecting to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (<a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a>)|168.244.164.81|:80... connected.</div><div>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found</div>
<div>Location: <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com/">https://www.myloweslife.com/</a> [following]</div><div>--2013-06-15 10:19:35-- <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com/">https://www.myloweslife.com/</a></div><div>WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/david/.cache/keyring-DfQFQs/pkcs11: No such file or directory</div>
<div>Connecting to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a> (<a href="http://www.myloweslife.com">www.myloweslife.com</a>)|168.244.164.81|:443... connected.</div><div>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found</div>
<div>Location: <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/">https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/</a> [following]</div><div>--2013-06-15 10:19:36-- <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/">https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/</a></div>
<div>Reusing existing connection to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com:443">www.myloweslife.com:443</a>.</div><div>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found</div><div>Location: <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com:443/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22">https://www.myloweslife.com:443/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22</a> [following]</div>
<div>--2013-06-15 10:19:36-- <a href="https://www.myloweslife.com/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22">https://www.myloweslife.com/nesp/app/plogin?c=lowes/second/factor/uri&%22https://www.myloweslife.com/wps/myportal/ews/%22</a></div>
<div>Reusing existing connection to <a href="http://www.myloweslife.com:443">www.myloweslife.com:443</a>.</div><div>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily</div><div><div>Location: <a href="https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D">https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D</a> [following]</div>
<div>--2013-06-15 10:19:36-- <a href="https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D">https://idp.myloweslife.com/nidp/idff/sso?RequestID=idbLrg6V-LodDMX-fv01I9GMNWOi0&MajorVersion=1&MinorVersion=2&IssueInstant=2013-06-15T15%3A20%3A54Z&ProviderID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%3A443%2Fnesp%2Fidff%2Fmetadata&RelayState=MA%3D%3D&consent=urn%3Aliberty%3Aconsent%3Aunavailable&ForceAuthn=false&IsPassive=false&NameIDPolicy=onetime&ProtocolProfile=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectliberty.org%2Fprofiles%2Fbrws-art&target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myloweslife.com%2Fwps%2Fmyportal%2Fews%2F&AuthnContextStatementRef=lowes%2Fsecond%2Ffactor%2Furi&SigAlg=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2F09%2Fxmldsig%23rsa-sha1&Signature=N9cHmZrMMvk1G7yiPcbhFKJONk5iuFxhMCcwwWw09OqCLnw18MrX7fij%2BcM7gRxqa7daRBcY%2FtG9lemo2K%2FEs0Cd4cWyHWyaov5RRG8Dzf9yXl3Yr7cRD0xMfFjACtRQ%2BihfqhMyjWP9KB4y1TTqWUy7fpiyB93pl0x9gAFwPZmagpm1rNJ2KioX%2FbF3x%2FT6%2FSgzcAqq0nPwOlI5cODtLHark9PhP2iNYZGvHKuN3xAyzksKpfA26A%2Flu1xR15514eyl8qWS9FMjuFpJ9thPwwKbFL%2B066wQHJr0cGe7Gwo3FNHjZ1HAwBFQhDuTVKELxyG34sdlNZ4vjd5fnkD8EQ%3D%3D</a></div>
<div>Resolving <a href="http://idp.myloweslife.com">idp.myloweslife.com</a> (<a href="http://idp.myloweslife.com">idp.myloweslife.com</a>)... 168.244.164.136</div><div>Connecting to <a href="http://idp.myloweslife.com">idp.myloweslife.com</a> (<a href="http://idp.myloweslife.com">idp.myloweslife.com</a>)|168.244.164.136|:443... connected.</div>
<div>HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK</div><div>Length: 6758 (6.6K) [text/html]</div><div>Saving to: ‘index.html’</div><div><br></div><div>100%[======================================>] 6,758 --.-K/s in 0s </div>
<div><br></div><div>2013-06-15 10:19:37 (57.3 MB/s) - ‘index.html’ saved [6758/6758]</div></div><div><br></div><div style>Well, that's telling.</div><div style><br></div><div style><div>So trace and ping don't work, but a connection does -- to <a href="http://WWW.myloweslife.com">WWW.myloweslife.com</a>. I have not tried the <a href="http://myloweslife.com">myloweslife.com</a> site (which has a different IP).</div>
<div><br></div><div style>The "baseline" I mentioned is just knowing the hops/hopcount to wherever you're going.</div></div><div style><br></div><div style>Hope that helps,</div><div style><br></div><div style>
David A. Bandel</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rick Bowers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rwbowers@gmail.com" target="_blank">rwbowers@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Thanks for your reply, David.<br><br>
I don't know what may lie between the last accessible IP (74.202.159.238)
and my target IP (168.244.164.134). Isn't that the purpose behind
(dynamic) routing? An end user doesn't need to know the route to their
destination.<br><br>
I assume a "real" OS == linux. I'll try tcptraceroute on my
linux box when I get home Sunday evening.<br><br>
When you say I need a baseline to go from. what do you mean?<br><br>
The only real information I have is that I need to connect my browser to
<a href="http://www.myloweslife.com/" target="_blank">
www.myloweslife.com</a> and that attempt fails. I tried tracert in
order to try to determine what was going on behind the scenes. Obviously,
that form of troubleshooting is (no longer) reasonable.<br><br>
Do you have any suggestions on how to figure out why I may not be able to
browse to that site? HR tells me there shouldn't be a problem and claims
nobody else has connection problems. I'm stumped.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>
~Rick</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><br>
At 6/14/2013 11:53 PM, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hey Rick,<br><br>
This depends. Do you know where the IP is you're trying to reach in
relation to the last IP shown?<br><br>
It is common today for clueless admins to block ping packets (M$ uses
ping vice UDP packets for tracing). You might also be hitting
transit routes for the last hop or two. These transit routes are
private IPs that can't respond back to you, but do pass packets through
(those that haven't reached their TTL/hop limit).<br><br>
So there may be no "block" to get past. You really do
need to have a baseline to go from. Try using a tcp trace (a la
tcptraceroute), they usually have less problems, but you'll need a real
OS for that.<br><br>
Ciao,<br><br>
David A. Bandel<br><br>
<br>
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Rick Bowers
<<a href="mailto:rwbowers@gmail.com" target="_blank">rwbowers@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<dl>
<dd>Off-topic question, but I know there is expertise here on this
list.<br><br>
</dd><dd>I've been trying to connect to
<a href="http://www.myloweslife.com" target="_blank">www.myloweslife.com</a> but the
site<br>
</dd><dd>continually times out. I've tried multiple times over the past
week<br>
</dd><dd>with no success.<br><br>
</dd><dd>I tried running a tracert (Windows version of traceroute)
several<br>
</dd><dd>times and seem to always time out at the same point. (output
below)<br><br>
</dd><dd>I'm not sure exactly what this means, or who to contact to get
past<br>
</dd><dd>the "block".<br><br>
</dd><dd>- Does this indicate a broken route? Down system?<br>
</dd><dd>- Can I contact someone to help? Who? My ISP (Verizon<br>
</dd><dd>FIOS)? <a href="http://twtelecom.net" target="_blank">twtelecom.net</a> (Time
Warner)?<br><br>
</dd><dd>C:\>tracert
<a href="http://myloweslife.com" target="_blank">myloweslife.com</a><br><br>
</dd><dd>Tracing route to <a href="http://myloweslife.com" target="_blank">myloweslife.com</a>
[168.244.164.134]<br>
</dd><dd>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>
</dd><dd> 1 2 ms 3
ms 3<br>
</dd><dd>ms
<a href="http://Wireless_Broadband_Router.somewhereunknown.net" target="_blank">
Wireless_Broadband_Router.somewhereunknown.net</a> [192.168.1.1]<br>
</dd><dd> 2 5 ms 5
ms 5 ms
<a href="http://L100.BSTNMA-VFTTP-77.verizon-gni.net" target="_blank">
L100.BSTNMA-VFTTP-77.verizon-gni.net</a><br>
</dd><dd>[98.110.224.1]<br>
</dd><dd> 3 8 ms 10
ms 9<br>
</dd><dd>ms
<a href="http://G0-14-2-6.BSTNMA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net" target="_blank">
G0-14-2-6.BSTNMA-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net</a> [130.81.217.110]<br>
</dd><dd> 4 6 ms 5
ms 6 ms
<a href="http://ae0-0.BOS-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net" target="_blank">
ae0-0.BOS-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net</a><br>
</dd><dd>[130.81.209.94]<br>
</dd><dd> 5 22 ms 22
ms 22 ms
<a href="http://0.xe-10-0-0.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET" target="_blank">
0.xe-10-0-0.XL2.IAD8.ALTER.NET</a> [152.63.7.61]<br>
</dd><dd> 6 22 ms 22
ms 22 ms
<a href="http://0.xe-11-1-0.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET" target="_blank">
0.xe-11-1-0.GW12.IAD8.ALTER.NET</a><br>
</dd><dd>[152.63.35.126]<br>
</dd><dd> 7 23 ms 22
ms 24 ms
<a href="http://twtelecom-gw.customer.alter.net" target="_blank">
twtelecom-gw.customer.alter.net</a><br>
</dd><dd>[152.179.50.186]<br>
</dd><dd> 8 41 ms 40
ms 42 ms
<a href="http://gso1-ar1-xe-2-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net" target="_blank">
gso1-ar1-xe-2-0-0-0.us.twtelecom.net</a><br>
</dd><dd>[66.192.241.46]<br>
</dd><dd> 9 42 ms 42
ms 43 ms
<a href="http://74-202-159-238.static.twtelecom.net" target="_blank">
74-202-159-238.static.twtelecom.net</a><br>
</dd><dd>[74.202.159.238]<br>
</dd><dd> 10
*
* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 11
*
* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 12
*
* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 13
*
* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 14
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 15
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 16
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 17
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 18
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 19
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 20
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 21
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Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 22
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Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 23
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Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 24
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Request timed out.<br>
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Request timed out.<br>
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Request timed out.<br>
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Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 28
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Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 29
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* *
Request timed out.<br>
</dd><dd> 30
*
* *
Request timed out.<br><br>
</dd><dd>Trace complete.<br><br>
</dd><dd>C:\><br><br>
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