[Linux-users] USB /dev/sda weirdness

[Ronnie Gauthier]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:12:09 -0500
C M Reinehr <cmr at amsent.com> wrote:

> Ronnie,
> 
> On Monday 13 August 2007 06:41, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:53:13 +1000
> >
> > James McDonald <james at jamesmcdonald.id.au> wrote:
> > > Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
> > > > I have a 4G mp3 player. Works fine but...
> > > > SuSe 10.2
> >
> >  ideas??
> >
> > > I had a problem with deleting items of a Flash Carded camera the
> > > 'delete' was actually a move to a .Trash/ directory hence no diskspace
> > > regained. Your problem isn't as simple as this is it?
> >
> > I dont think so but I'll empty the trash before I remove the usb
> > device and see if that fixes the problem.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Ronnie
> 
> I think James may be right. I just ran a quick check with my system and as 
> soon as I "deleted" a couple of files on a flash memory card, KDE 
> automagically created a .trash folder and moved the files into it. The file 
> system was ext2, and not FAT.
> 
> There's a setting buried somewhere within the KDE user configuration which 
> specifies whether a true "delete" is wanted or whether the user wishes only a 
> move to trash. I've always used delete, previously, but when I installed this 
> system I never got around to setting the flag and have just been using move 
> to trash. I never realized before this thread brought it up, that KDE creates 
> a .trash folder in each separate file system, rather than using just the one 
> in my home directory.
> 
I really cant say if that was the problem or not. After the reformat, today I 
plugged it into my linux laptop and the usb device would not mount. So I went 
the easy way and used the auto.master(enable auto.misc) and auto.misc
(add the line: removable -fstype=vfat :/dev/sda) files in /etc. Now it auto 
mounts and when I delete a file there is no hidden trash file made and I get 
all the disk space back. I can only say it must have had something to do with 
the original formatting of the device. Maybe a real vfat vs the 'newer' fat32
I reformatted it to. I dunno but all is now OK.

Thanks: James and CMR

Just an aside. It is fsking crap like this that stops the further inroads we all
wish linux would make with the average clueless windblows heads. I've been using 
Linux since Debian Hamm, manage to write probably the finest set of weather scripts 
available (free or $$$), which BTW I am in the process of OpenSourcing at sourceForge 
(http://weather4php.sourceforge.net)[shameless plug][[ask and I'll gz the whole mess 
for you]]. Yet I felt the need to yell for help with this issue. It was just some 
wasted time(well maybe I did learn something) for me, but most likely a kill stopper 
for a newer linux user. No matter the fault of formatting or whatever this should 
never have reared its ugly little head.
GRRRRR...end rant....

Thanks
Ronnie