OK, I decided to go with an Epson 3170 scanner. I set my /etc/sane.d/epson file to show usb /dev/usbscanner0. I also tried usb /dev/usb/scanner0. Also, I tried installing iscan from epson. neither iscan, kooka or xsane can find my scanner, but under the KDE control center/USB devices tab, it is seen and listed. Any suggestions? Harry G