[SBU Board] Fwd: Team Event Proposal

Tue Mar 3 14:54:00 PST 2020

I totally agree with the format
That Monty is proposing.
Thank you
Karen
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> On Mar 3, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I’m following up on Monday evening’s discussion of the format and duration of the Sunday Swiss event at last month’s Sectional.  Matt K told me that the “7 rounds of 8” structure was the result of Eric Sieg's proposal, which the Board adopted at its August 2019 meeting for “an initial trial period of 2020.”  Eric’s proposal, which I’ve attached below, contains some discussion of the background.
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> Personally, I believe that extending play past 6:00 p.m. on Sunday, as occurred last month, is too long, at least for the majority of players, and that the Sunday format should be adjusted if necessary to avoid that result whenever possible. 
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> At the fall Harvest Sectional in 2018, we had an A/X section that played 6 rounds of 9 boards each, a 0-2500 stratified Swiss section that played 6 rounds of 8 boards each, and a one-session 0-200 event.  There were 14 tables in the A/X, 11 tables in the stratified Swiss, and 4 tables in the 0-200 event.  I thought that worked well, and would like us to consider its repetition this fall.  My notes indicate that we were done by 6:00. 
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> Monty Gray
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> From: Eric Sieg <easieg at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 11:05 AM
> Subject: [SBU Board] Team Event Proposal
> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
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> Proposal for Team Events. the following was constructed based on feedback from A/B/C players, directors, ACBL guidelines in regards to how many boards to play in Swiss events, and ACBL guidelines (and consultation with Jeff Ford) on how many rounds to play for a certain # of teams. 
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> It seems good to have this voted on and confirmed as a board to allow for predictable events and so that there are clear guidelines for directors so we don't need have huddle every sectional to figure out how many boards to play. The likely area for discussion tonight is the recommendation on how many boards to play when A, B, and C players are playing together as well as the concept of prompt rounds. Other places in the ACBL have enforced time penalties and I have never ever seen someone get upset about it. The key is to communicate their existence and the reasoning clearly. It has always been well received and appreciated and results in people getting out quickly. I think everyone appreciates getting out 30+ minutes earlier as a result of rounds being called promptly and it'd be great to see this become part of our approach here in Seattle.
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> By far the overwhelming feedback I heard from the last sectional (after the chairs) was the reduced amount of boards in play for the Swiss. Two different people said they felt misled and expressed the feeling that had they known, they would not have played.
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> SWISS
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> If less than 20 teams in an event, 6 rounds. If Open or A/X or similar, then 6 9 board rounds. If an event with an upper masterpoint limit, then 6 8 board rounds.
> If 20 or more teams in an event, 7 rounds. If Open/ or A/X or all levels, then 7 8 board rounds. If an event with an upper masterpoint limit, then 7 7 board rounds.
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> *Special rule, if A/X and BCD are split then try to stretch to keep the same # of rounds to simplify lunches. If the team with more teams has more than 19 but less than 24, then run 6 rounds in both events. Conversely, if the team with the most has over 24 and the lower team has 18 (but not 20), then run as 7 round event.
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> **If there are going to be a different # of rounds, then tournament chairs should work with directors to insure that there is not an overly long break for one team resulting in a longer event. This might involve fetching lunches, trying to line up help or a director while the other is eating, maybe buying/lining up lunch for a director that won't get a full lunch break, etc.
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> In order to ensure getting out in a timely manner, time per round should be visible on round clocks at all times. Announcements should include an announcement about time deadlines being enforced: scores must be reported before clock hits 0 and that discussions should happen AFTER the scores are reported. First failure will result in warning (mark on scoresheet), further violations will be assessed a penalty. The goal here is to keep things moving, not make people feel bad. Nobody likes to go home later than necessary, but if the movement isn't kept moving then that can easily happen. This has been handled well in other locations (with no hard feelings and appreciated by almost all) but is new for Seattle, so dedicating extra energy to education at the start is recommended.
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> For all team Swiss team events, 36 boards should be pre-duplicated for the event and pre-duplicated boards should be made available for the open event after the 3rd round for 7 round events and after the 2nd round for 6 round events. Enough boards for at least the top 4 matches should be prepared ahead of time.
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> KNOCKOUTS
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> For knockouts, during the round robin rounds there will be 24 boards in play. For semi-final and final rounds, there should be 28 boards in play for the top bracket and 26 boards in play for lower brackets.
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> The semi finals and finals of the top bracket should have pre-duplicated boards. Ideally all matches on the 2nd day would have preduplicated boards, but that might not be financially feasible. Pre-duped boards would also allow for discussion and/or a lecture between rounds that all levels can participate in.
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