[SBU Board] FW: Unit Approval Required

Fri Jan 17 10:53:22 PST 2020

Hi all,

As of now, we have 7 responses in the survey indicating "No. EBC can run
ACBL Senior Pairs during our sectional." and zero responses for blocking
EBC if we do have a conflict. While others could continue to vote through
EOD tomorrow, that's a majority of the board. Given this, I suggest we let
the ACBL know that we are not blocking EBC's request for Senior Pairs and
not hold their approval waiting for IUOE to confirm/reject our dates.

I won't send anything until Monday since the ACBL likely won't read it
until then anyways but I wanted to let the board know the data to date.

Results are here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SiYh8FuJvFqTtJdmjXTJDZRuLdSQZmtPpV7duPw6e9s/edit#responses

Thanks,
JC

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:25 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's also moot if we don't care about blocking EBC either way.  :) And if
> that's the case, I'd prefer that we just go ahead and let the ACBL know
> we're fine with this rather than putting it "on hold" waiting for IUOE to
> settle.
>
> Let's set aside the uncertainty of IUOE's plans and presume that our
> sectional will be Oct 16-18 for the purpose of this discussion. With that
> in mind, would all available board members please respond to this
> one-question survey on topic by 1/18?
>
> https://forms.gle/T6TwqcNUYCZXEYH7A
>
> (directional, not formal vote -- survey is in our board member-only area,
> so you will need to be logged in with Google for it to work, results only
> visible to board members)
>
> That will tell me whether we truly need to keep this "on hold" pending the
> IUOE decision or not.
>
> Thanks all,
> JC
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:34 AM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And personally, I think that, if we can't have the dates at Bothell, then
>> the whole thing is sorta moot.
>> Ann Romeo
>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>> Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>> Work direct dial: 212-463-6331
>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:23 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> My two cents:
>>> I don't think we should block EBC from participating in ACBL's Senior
>>> Pairs event because of our sectional.  It's not like we can offer the
>>> Senior Pairs event at the sectional, and it has notable benefits to players
>>> that they might be interested in.
>>> I also don't think we should change our sectional plans because of this,
>>> e.g., switching to a 2-day event.  But we should acknowledge and recognize
>>> that attendance may be depressed for that Friday daytime game vs. the norm
>>> given the ACBL event on the same day.  I don't think it will be devastating
>>> as we have a decent number of players who will either prefer the sectional
>>> setup or aren't eligible for senior pairs.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:53 AM Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems to me that we should (a) talk to Bev at the IUOE again, and
>>>> see if they can tell us when they will have an answer if they can’t give us
>>>> one now; and, (b) assuming that Bev’s response doesn’t moot the issue, talk
>>>> to Paulette, explain the situation, and see what she has to say.  It may be
>>>> that holding the ACBL event isn’t that important to EBC – or that it is.
>>>> Either way, we’ll have more information before we try to make a decision;
>>>> and we can let her know that we’re trying to work the issue for the best
>>>> outcome for both parties.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don’t mind calling Paulette, but I think that it would be better for
>>>> the approach to be made by someone who knows her better than I do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Monty Gray
>>>> (206) 369-6444
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Thomas E Land via Sbuboard <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:31 AM
>>>> *To: *Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Thomas E Land <ltom2 at aol.com>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [SBU Board] FW: Unit Approval Required
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree, David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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>>>> On Jan 14, 2020, at 5:01 PM, David Dailey <compass98155 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> My quick thoughts:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not think that a club's request to hold an ACBL-wide game is a
>>>> good reason to change our sectional to a two-day event.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we wanted to reschedule the Harvest Sectional, how complicated is it
>>>> to fit in around everything else in the district?  The calendar is not wide
>>>> open simply because we need to look at alternate dates.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> If we move the Harvest Sectional, might we consider the Sat/Sun of
>>>> October 17/18 prime calendar time for an NLM Regional event, which could
>>>> more readily be a two-day event?  Or, absent an NLM Regional, an NLM
>>>> Sectional instead, which very often is only two days anyhow?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the unit should be in the habit of providing benefits to
>>>> one club that other clubs do not receive from time to time.  If there is
>>>> some parity amongst what's awarded to clubs, that's fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:23 PM Raymond Miller <raysmiller at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do we know our timeline for responding to Eastside's request?  IMy
>>>> initial reaction is to approve this, regardless.  But after some thought
>>>> I'm worried that this would be bad for non-seniors who would play at the
>>>> sectional if we had  to go to 2 days.  It would also be somewhat unfair to
>>>> other clubs.  So I'm not really sure which way we should go on this.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think we can find alternative dates at Bothell that will work.  It is
>>>> not yet clear, per Bev, that we will have Oct 16-18--they have an internal
>>>> customer who may be using those dates and they get first crack.  In the
>>>> meantime, Bev has indicated other dates that are available, and I think it
>>>> makes sense to see if they can work.  Personally, I hate to say no to
>>>> ESBC--they do so much for the Unit, and it may be that we can't have that
>>>> weekend.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ann Romeo
>>>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>>>> Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>>>>
>>>> Work direct dial: 212-463-6331
>>>>
>>>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
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>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 2:38 PM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There's basically three ways this can go:
>>>>
>>>>    1. We *are *able to confirm IUOE for Oct 16-18.  (Best case
>>>>    scenario for the sectional)
>>>>    2. We *aren't* able to book IUOE for Oct 16-18 but are able to book
>>>>    another dateset with them that we can work with.
>>>>    3. We *aren't* able to book IUOE for Oct 16-18 and need to find a
>>>>    new venue for those dates.
>>>>
>>>> We have the option as a unit to block EBC (and any other club
>>>> considered nearby) from holding ACBL-wide events and/or special events
>>>> during the sectional when they are not part of the club's regularly
>>>> scheduled games.  *Would we want to exercise that option for this
>>>> request for senior pairs during the Friday of our fall sectional if the
>>>> conflict remains (scenarios 1 & 3 above)? * I'd like the board to
>>>> weigh in on this sooner rather than later so that Monty, Ann, and I can
>>>> move quickly to notify and work with Paulette/EBC and the ACBL once we have
>>>> a confident answer on the sectional date/timing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (Also, if the board decides that we wouldn't want to block the request
>>>> regardless, it becomes a moot point and we can respond to approve.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --JC
>>>>
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just received the message below, asking us whether the Unit has any
>>>> objection to Eastside Bridge Club’s participation in the ACBL-wide senior
>>>> pairs event on October 16.  This date is the Friday of the preferred
>>>> weekend for our fall sectional, but we do not yet have confirmation that
>>>> the IUOE Hall will be available to us that weekend.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts?  Should we ask Paulette how important this is to EBC
>>>> (and if so, are there any volunteers to approach her)?  Can we get the
>>>> Union to expedite its decision-making?  Should we consent and be prepared
>>>> to accept the conflict if necessary?  Would EBC still want to go forward if
>>>> the Sectional were going forward at the same time?  Should we be prepared
>>>> to shorten the Sectional to a 2-day event?  Other ideas or questions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Monty Gray
>>>> (206) 369-6444
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *ACBL Special Games <specialevents at acbl.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, January 11, 2020 11:26 AM
>>>> *To: *mlgrayjr at gmail.com
>>>> *Subject: *Unit Approval Required
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *American Contract Bridge League *
>>>> <http://li.web3.acbl.org/wf/click?upn=jW89Tefgy8npDfs6SR4hiVsgpCbyfW4VJtMOUwPfSJE-3D_HgFNhgI7TbOkVNFXIkFpD0DdZuc3E5MubVaai6seYPGupMYorJFXnQ5b-2BnnLPsO1JBWb8br98-2FgUdabKZ1A0Wj8EFthMDEzuSZ2w8lQyR6MW96QtwhmwIdCsO6ys89N7MhJMIFCf-2BA1VGODm1ZdwSzelol-2BjpmYI41o5lNEUOjdL9d0JXEVBCYXrmJHvQeGzTdV1Tm3-2FdVLo5CxL1oNejg-3D-3D>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Monty Gray /ACBL Unit 446 Secretary:
>>>>
>>>> We have received notification that Eastside Bridge Center Inc, club#
>>>> 130260, club manager: Paulette Hauck, would like to host the following
>>>> game(s):
>>>> October 16, 2020 ACBL-WIDE SENIOR PAIRS GAME #2 FRI AFT
>>>>
>>>> This game must be held on the specific date and session. This club does
>>>> not hold regularly scheduled sessions for the time of this event. Please
>>>> let us know if the Unit objects to this club holding this special game.
>>>>
>>>> Unit approval is normally automatic, unless there is a Regional in the
>>>> District or a Sectional within twenty-five miles. Also, the above game
>>>> should not conflict with a neighboring club that does have a sanctioned
>>>> session for the date and time specified, and is also hosting the above
>>>> event.
>>>>
>>>> There is no need to reply if the unit does not object. Please choose
>>>> the Reply with history option or make sure to include the event.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance for your assistance. If you have any questions or
>>>> need assistance, please feel free to contact me anytime.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Sherry Terraciano
>>>> Special Events Coordinator
>>>> American Contract Bridge League
>>>> 6575 Windchase Blvd.
>>>> Horn Lake MS 38637-1523
>>>> 662-253-3187 Fax
>>>> (855) 275-7629 <8552757629>, option 2 Toll free message line
>>>> sherry.terraciano at acbl.org or SpecialEvents at acbl.org
>>>> <specialevents at acbl.org>
>>>>
>>>> © 2020 American Contract Bridge League. All rights reserved.
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>>>>
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> * Lead Technical Product Manager, Zulily <http://www.zulily.com>, Inc.
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JC Chupack
* Seattle ACBL Unit 446 <http://www.bridgeinseattle.org> President,
Web/Email Admin, & Publicity Chair
* Lead Technical Product Manager, Zulily <http://www.zulily.com>, Inc.
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