[SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board review ASAP

Wed Jun 5 11:18:57 PDT 2019

I think the second half is a single session event.
Ann Romeo
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On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:33 AM JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:

> If we are forcing people to pay for 2-sessions even though ~half of them
> won't get to play a true 2-session event, I'm strongly opposed to this
> event format. But, I don't think that's the case. For NABC events that have
> qualifiers, you don't have to pay for the whole event to play the first
> day...you buy a new entry if you qualify (just like a KO round), so I have
> trouble believing that is the structure being applied at a sectional.
>
> For what it's worth, I looked back to 2015, 2016, and 2017 flyers. We've
> never treated the qual/final/consolation as a 2-session event on the
> flyers. The consolation was noted as a single session event.
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:09 AM Mike Christensen <quirk_1 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we have always purchased a 2
>> session entry at the time of purchase for the qualifying pairs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe that if you wish to be eligible for the 2nd session of a 2
>> session event, you have to purchase a 2 session entry at the time of
>> purchase.  The consolation pairs is not a separate event.  It is for those
>> that purchased a 2 session entry and did not qualify.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can decline to play in the 2nd session, qualified or not, doesn’t
>> matter, inform the director and they will make adjustments as needed, but
>> you do not get your money back(same as a normal 2 session pairs event) and
>> you certainly do not get to make that decision after you did or did not
>> qualify.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can purchase a single session entry at the time of purchase, but you
>> do not get to play in the finals, regardless if you qualified and change
>> your mind.  You can buy into the consolation pairs if you want, as can
>> anyone.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *To:* Seattle ACBL Unit Board
>> *Subject:* Re: [SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board
>> review ASAP
>>
>> Carryover noted. I had missed that on the prior events and will correct
>> to:
>> (About half the field will qualify, up to two board carry-over)
>>
>> The Consolation pairs is a separate single session event. I'm *not *okay
>> changing the wording on that.  Open pairs participants are not required to
>> play in, nor pay for, the consolation pairs if they fail to qualify. (I'm
>> not sure forcing them to enter it is even an option allowed by the event
>> type.)
>>
>> I'd like to hear opinions on Monty's suggestion re: changing the title of
>> the Swiss?  I'm okay with whatever change we make to the title...I'm all
>> for making as low-confusion as possible.
>>
>> JC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:16 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes the consolation game is stratified.
>>> Ann Romeo
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:00 PM Raymond Miller <raysmiller at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agree with Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 5:11 PM Mike Christensen <quirk_1 at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Qualifying pairs traditionally has a 2 board carry over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evidence
>>>>> http://live.acbl.org/event/1710186/2801/2/recap
>>>>> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flive.acbl.org%2Fevent%2F1710186%2F2801%2F2%2Frecap&data=02%7C01%7C%7C8833688b65654231320608d6e9d399f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636953492363442053&sdata=kA0klrK5fnjSXrb7MAsWOw6qaOfFdP88yUx0%2BIGmiHY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, the director will often qualify enough pairs to get to a good
>>>>> movement, which is generally more but can occasionally be slightly less
>>>>> than half the field.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggest changing
>>>>> Open Pairs Qualifier (50% of the field will qualify for the finals, no
>>>>> carry-over)
>>>>> to
>>>>> Open Pairs Qualifier (About half the field will qualify for the
>>>>> finals, two board carry-over)
>>>>>
>>>>> And to emphasis that the consolation pairs entry is included with the
>>>>> qualification pairs buy in
>>>>>
>>>>> Stratified Consolation Pairs (single session)
>>>>> to
>>>>> Stratified Consolation Pairs (single session buy in ok)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 4:55 PM
>>>>> *To:* Seattle ACBL Unit Board
>>>>> *Subject:* [SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board
>>>>> review ASAP
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mike & Monty* - please check closely & let me know if you would like
>>>>> any changes. *(Monty confirmed he had volunteered as Lane's
>>>>> replacement for this one. Thanks, Monty!)*
>>>>>
>>>>> *All board members* - please help double-check for typos.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Note to all* - I called Sunday's event a "Stratified Matchpoint
>>>>> (BAM) Swiss" instead of just calling it a BAM Swiss, to try to reduce
>>>>> confusion with the less-popular BAM Teams event, per someone's (not sure
>>>>> who? apologies for lack of credit) suggestion from last night. I have no
>>>>> idea if the ACBL will be okay with that wording or not, but we'll see after
>>>>> we submit. From some casual chat with TDs, it seems like it should be okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Please review ASAP. Barring any responses telling me otherwise, I
>>>>> will submit to the ACBL tomorrow evening.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
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