[SBU Board] Vasa schdule--quick vote
Mike Christensen
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Mon Sep 10 16:54:02 PDT 2018
I am a hard no on BAM as the 3rd session, as a fan of the event I heartily agree with Jeff's concerns.
I am also a hard no on choice pairs, without a formal discussion at a board meeting I do not want to consider it over email with a short deadline. This is how you end up with announcements about how the printed schedule is wrong.
I don't like 3 sessions in one day, it was not very popular and most of the comments about it were complaints, however I am only mildly opposed, if we need to get a 2nd one done to feel like we gave it a fair shot, now is as good a time as any.
I see 3 viable options.
* 2 Single session pairs
* 1 Single session pairs followed by a BAM
* 2 Single session pairs followed by a fast pairs
I am not a fan of running a BAM in the afternoon, I feel like it is an evening event so either of the other 2 can have my vote.
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Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Vasa schdule--quick vote
I'm a yes vote for 3 sessions regardless of choice pairs. I think fast pairs is fine too. A big part of that is part of the discussion last year was that we should try it for two years before making any permanent decisions. I think that holds true for both the daytime pairs and the fast pairs (imo). I didn't actually think of the "not single sessions" aspect of choice pairs, just remembered doing it and people liking it elsewhere. I would be amenable to Friday now needing 2 sessions though since Morning/Afternoon isn't particularly great for worker bees anyway so the benefit (can just play the evening session) becomes a lot less relevant.
That said, while I think its right to try 3 sessions with a fast for one more year, I don't feel nearly as strongly about it as some other things.
Eric
p.s. I'm a no vote on holding a BAM in the 3rd session regardless of everything else. I think its a fast pairs or choice pairs or no bridge.
Ann Romeo wrote:
There are some issues with Choice Pairs from what I understand.
* There will be three completely different set of boards, so comps are a bit wonky.
* Participants must play in two of the three sessions--if you are working, you cannot play in one session and place in the overalls.
* It still means very short meal breaks if you play in two back to back sessions
* and it means that those who do play in the evening have a short night before coming back and playing on Saturday...
The votes I've counted to date are as follows, BUT some have not been in the loop re Choice Pairs (Mike, Tim, John), and should send me a new vote--or if you want tochange your vote, send it to me
Ann: Yes for third session
Bill: Yes for third session, IF a Choice pairs
Eric: Yes for third session, IF a Choice pairs
JC: No, but would be amenable to Choice pairs.
Monty: No, but would be amenable to Choice pairs
Patti: Yes for third session
Larry: No
Ray: No
Mike: No
Tim: No
John: No
Do I have your pov right? let me know. And look at Ray's comments...he really hates this idea....
Ann
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com<mailto:mlgrayjr at gmail.com>> wrote:
I vote for no third session. I’m not familiar with choice pairs, but if it works the way it sounds, I’d favor that if we’re going to have a third session.
Since some Unit members prefer morning-afternoon and some prefer afternoon-evening, and some (but not all) feel strongly about it, I think it’s appropriate to have one schedule at some sectionals and the other schedule at other sectionals. We can’t please everyone all the time, and we shouldn’t knock ourselves out trying to figure out how to do so.
I’m fine with putting a BAM event into the program for the KO.
Monty Gray
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Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Vasa schdule--quick vote
I prefer 2 session unless the third session were choice pairs allowing people to select 2 of the three sessions.
I prefer Fast Pairs to BAM, but probably wouldn't play either as I'm not up for three sessions.
On Sep 10, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com<mailto:annromeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
1) I vote yes on a third session
2) I vote no on BAM and yes on Fast Pairs as third session
Ann
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:27 PM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com<mailto:jc.chupack at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry...let me be more explicit:
1) I vote no on a third session.
2) I vote no on BAM and FP for the third session, if it were to be run. (If we run a third session, I like Eric's choice pairs idea, although we can only run that for the open.)
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:25 PM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com<mailto:jc.chupack at gmail.com>> wrote:
1) I vote no on a third session.
2) If we run a third session, I like Eric's choice pairs idea, although we can only run that for the open.
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On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Eric Sieg <easieg at gmail.com<mailto:easieg at gmail.com>> wrote:
1) I vote yes on a 3rd session, at least this year. Then re-evaluate as to whether we want to have a 3rd session and whether we want to stick with Morning/Afternoon on Friday of the Sweetheart in the PM.
2) My primary thought is not a BAM.
One possibility is a fast pairs that is run correctly. Alternatively, we could run Friday as a choice pairs where people pick 2 sessions to play. That way daytime people can play Morning/afternoon and working people could play afternoon/evening. I'm fine with either of these solutions and am not sure if choice pairs was brought up as an option during the meeting.
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Ann Romeo wrote:
Reviewing the comments of the people who have weighed in (I believe we have not heard from Patti, Mike or Eric at this point), it seems that the majority are leaning toward not having a third session at Vasa at our Sweetheart sectional.
I would like to get a yea or nay from each of you, on the following:
First, should we have a third session at Vasa on Friday at our February sectional?
Second, if yes, should we have Fast Pairs?
or
Should we have single session BAM?
Finally, if we do not have a single session BAM, I will propose at our next meeting that we hold a single session BAM on the second session of the Friday of our KO tournament in May.
( we don't have to vote on that right now).
Thanks for participating.
Ann
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