[SBU Board] Vasa schdule--quick vote

Eric Sieg easieg at gmail.com
Mon Sep 10 16:35:38 PDT 2018


I'm a yes vote for 3 sessions regardless of choice pairs. I think fast 
pairs is fine too. A big part of that is part of the discussion last 
year was that we should try it for two years before making any permanent 
decisions. I think that holds true for both the daytime pairs and the 
fast pairs (imo). I didn't actually think of the "not single sessions" 
aspect of choice pairs, just remembered doing it and people liking it 
elsewhere. I would be amenable to Friday now needing 2 sessions though 
since Morning/Afternoon isn't particularly great for worker bees anyway 
so the benefit (can just play the evening session) becomes a lot less 
relevant.

That said, while I think its right to try 3 sessions with a fast for one 
more year, I don't feel nearly as strongly about it as some other things.

Eric

p.s. I'm a no vote on holding a BAM in the 3rd session regardless of 
everything else. I think its a fast pairs or choice pairs or no bridge.

Ann Romeo wrote:
> There are some issues with Choice Pairs from what I understand.
>
>   * There will be three completely different set of boards, so comps
>     are a bit wonky.
>   * Participants must play in two of the three sessions--if you are
>     working, you cannot play in one session and place in the overalls.
>   * It still means very short meal breaks if you play in two back to
>     back sessions
>   * and it means that those who do play in the evening have a short
>     night before coming back and playing on Saturday... 
>
> The votes I've counted to date are as follows, BUT some have not been 
> in the loop re Choice Pairs (Mike, Tim, John), and should send me a 
> new vote--or if you want tochange your vote, send it to me
>
> Ann:  Yes for third session
> Bill: Yes for third session, IF a Choice pairs
> Eric: Yes for third session, IF a Choice pairs
> JC: No, but would be amenable to Choice pairs.
> Monty: No, but would be amenable to Choice pairs
> Patti: Yes for third session
> Larry: No
> Ray: No
> Mike: No
> Tim: No
> John: No
>
> Do I have your pov right?  let me know.  And look at Ray's 
> comments...he really hates this idea....
>
> Ann
>
> Ann Romeo
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>
> //**
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Monty Gray <mlgrayjr at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mlgrayjr at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I vote for no third session.  I’m not familiar with choice pairs,
>     but if it works the way it sounds, I’d favor that if we’re going
>     to have a third session.
>
>     Since some Unit members prefer morning-afternoon and some prefer
>     afternoon-evening, and some (but not all) feel strongly about it, 
>     I think it’s appropriate to have one schedule at some sectionals
>     and the other schedule at other sectionals.   We can’t please
>     everyone all the time, and we shouldn’t knock ourselves out trying
>     to figure out how to do so.
>
>     I’m fine with putting a BAM event into the program for the KO.
>
>     Monty Gray
>
>     *From: *William Campbell via Sbuboard
>     <mailto:sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>     *Sent: *Monday, September 10, 2018 2:54 PM
>     *To: *Seattle ACBL Unit Board <mailto:sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>     *Cc: *William Campbell <mailto:jwccsllc at me.com>
>     *Subject: *Re: [SBU Board] Vasa schdule--quick vote
>
>     I prefer 2 session unless the third session were choice pairs
>     allowing people to select 2 of the three sessions.
>
>     I prefer Fast Pairs to BAM, but probably wouldn't play either as
>     I'm not up for three sessions.
>
>     On Sep 10, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com
>     <mailto:annromeo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>         1) I vote yes on a third session
>
>         2) I vote no on BAM and yes on Fast Pairs as third session
>
>         Ann
>
>
>         Ann Romeo
>         Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com <mailto:annromeo at gmail.com>
>
>         Local home: 206-526-0871
>         Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>         <mailto:Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com>
>
>         Work direct dial: 212-463-6331
>
>         My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>
>         On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:27 PM, JC Chupack
>         <jc.chupack at gmail.com <mailto:jc.chupack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Sorry...let me be more explicit:
>
>             1) I vote no on a third session.
>
>             2) I vote no on BAM and FP for the third session, if it
>             were to be run. (If we run a third session, I like Eric's
>             choice pairs idea, although we can only run that for the
>             open.)
>
>
>             --
>             JC Chupack
>
>             Seattle ACBL Unit 446 <http://bridgeinseattle.org/>
>             Secretary, Electronic Contact, & Publicity Chair
>
>             On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:25 PM, JC Chupack
>             <jc.chupack at gmail.com <mailto:jc.chupack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 1) I vote no on a third session.
>
>                 2) If we run a third session, I like Eric's choice
>                 pairs idea, although we can only run that for the open.
>
>
>                 --
>                 JC Chupack
>
>                 Seattle ACBL Unit 446 <http://bridgeinseattle.org/>
>                 Secretary, Electronic Contact, & Publicity Chair
>
>                 On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Eric Sieg
>                 <easieg at gmail.com <mailto:easieg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     1) I vote yes on a 3rd session, at least this
>                     year. Then re-evaluate as to whether we want to
>                     have a 3rd session and whether we want to stick
>                     with Morning/Afternoon on Friday of the Sweetheart
>                     in the PM.
>                     2) My primary thought is not a BAM.
>
>                     One possibility is a fast pairs that is run
>                     correctly. Alternatively, we could run Friday as a
>                     choice pairs where people pick 2 sessions to play.
>                     That way daytime people can play Morning/afternoon
>                     and working people could play afternoon/evening.
>                     I'm fine with either of these solutions and am not
>                     sure if choice pairs was brought up as an option
>                     during the meeting.
>
>                     For choice pairs, see section I at:
>                     https://www.acbl.org/about-acbl/administration/acbl-handbook/ii-kinds-of-event/
>                     <https://www.acbl.org/about-acbl/administration/acbl-handbook/ii-kinds-of-event/>
>
>                     Eric
>
>
>                     Ann Romeo wrote:
>
>                         Reviewing the comments of the people who have
>                         weighed in (I believe we have not heard from
>                         Patti, Mike or Eric at this point), it seems
>                         that the majority are leaning toward not
>                         having a third session at Vasa  at our
>                         Sweetheart sectional.
>
>                         I would like to get a yea or nay from each of
>                         you, on the following:
>
>                         First, *should we have a third session at Vasa
>                         on Friday at our February sectional? *
>
>                         Second, *if yes, should we have Fast Pairs?*
>
>                         or
>
>                         *Should we have single session BAM?*
>
>                         Finally, if we do not have a single session
>                         BAM, I will propose at our next meeting that
>                         we hold a single session BAM on the second
>                         session of the Friday of our KO tournament in May.
>
>                         ( we don't have to vote on that right now).
>
>                         Thanks for participating.
>
>                         Ann
>
>                         Ann Romeo
>                         Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:annromeo at gmail.com>
>
>                         Local home: 206-526-0871
>                         Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>                         <mailto:Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com>
>
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>
>                         My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>
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