[SBU Board] Fwd: Attendance on Sunday

Thu Mar 8 14:09:12 PST 2018

I agree, JC.  However perhaps we could use a restaurant guide for this venue.

Larry

From: JC Chupack 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:28 AM
To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board 
Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Fwd: Attendance on Sunday

I admit that I don't understand how anyone able-bodied could say they had trouble finding/getting lunch for Vasa Park.  (I did understand that concern for Forest Ridge, just because the neighborhood there is so slow to go in/out.) There are restaurants, including counter service, fast food, and sit-down, within 5-7 minutes drive (under 2 miles) of Vasa Park. Restaurants include Subway, Teriyaki, Outback, Jack in the Box, McDonald's, Dairy Queen, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Bombay House (Indian), and Southgate Garden (Korean).  There's a few more spots that I haven't seen personally, too. And the roads to/from are fast and easy to drive.

The comments about mealtime being short I can sort of understand, for folks who really strongly want to be able to have a sit-down meal vs. something counter-service or fast food. (And I can see both sides of whether having time for a sit-down dinner is a thing that should be expected on a daylight schedule.)  

Is there something I'm missing about Vasa Park w.r.t. getting food?  I played on Saturday & Sunday, and our group had no trouble not only having lunch but doing a full postmortem while at lunch on both days.  Even if I were someone that needed extra time to get in/out of my car, you could get a meal equivalent or better than what we'd be able to provide in the allotted time. 

JC

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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:

  man, see what happens when I type on my phone....
  I had dinner with Jeff the other night, and he made the observation that a meal should probably be served at Vasa specifically.  Something to keep in mind.
  a

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  Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:11 PM
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  Hefg also made a goid point at dinner ladt night.  We really shoukd hsve lunch on site at that particular venue...pizza or sandwiches.  It will make swiss much smoother and faster.  If I don't play...doable at reasonable cost.  

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  From: JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> 
  Date: 3/7/18 2:56 PM (GMT-08:00) 
  To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com> 
  Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Attendance on Sunday 

  FWIW, I did think of another hypothesis for why we saw the biggest drop-off for the Swiss.  What if people honestly gave Vasa Park another try because we noted it was remodeled, so they came out on Friday and/or Saturday, saw that it was still flawed in whatever way they particularly hate, and so blew off Saturday and/or Sunday, leading to a decline over the weekend as more folks decided it still wasn't meeting their expectations?

  That is something that we'll get from the survey, though.  I have no doubt the vocal anti-Vasa folks will let us know if they were disappointed with what they saw. :)

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  On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:51 PM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:

    FWIW, we did discuss that specifically on Monday night.  The most compelling reason to not do pairs & teams on that day is that whenever you have a pairs event with a team event and don't have separate rooms, the pairs event suffers noisiness when the teams are getting assignments and re-locating.  Running pairs along with the teams happens a lot at NABCs and Regionals because they typically have the space to provide separation.

    I'd also note that the event format itself didn't change year-over-year (YoY), nor was there any indication that it changed YoY. So, even though we all have heard feedback about reasons folks don't go to Swiss, I'd have trouble believing that the YoY drop-off is due to Swiss itself.  It could be a factor, though, if the decision tree when some other big factor is at play (like weather or location), means that folks who aren't fond of our Swiss teams events anyways stay home. (i.e., "I am willing to deal with [Vasa Park, snow, etc.] for pairs because I like pairs games, but I'm not willing to deal with it for Swiss because I don't like that format.")

    I'll do my best to address this somehow in the survey, but it can be very tough to tease out when a number of factors could be at play.

    JC

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    On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:18 PM, LARRY HOLDREN <larryholdren at comcast.net> wrote:

      Hi all:

      When I got home Monday night, M asked about the meeting.  I told her that one of our concerns was the poor turn out Sunday at Vasa Park.  Her reaction was something like “no wonder, all you had was Swiss teams.”

      Maybe there is a point there.  Perhaps one or two limited pairs games and an open Swiss???

      Could a question on this subject be added to the planned survey?

      Larry

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