[SBU Board] 2019 Sun Tan Sectional Update

Thu Jul 12 12:56:18 PDT 2018

Good point, Tim.  And I'm pretty sure we haven't had this date usually--I
remember early August as our 'traditionall time' for the sectional.
a

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On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Tim White <trkwhite at gmail.com> wrote:

> The D19 Tournament Coordinator has taken the position:  "12-14 July is not
> available to you unless anacortes [sic] goes on a different week. The
> second Sunday in July is their traditional date.”  I strongly suggest we
> not go to battle over this — we have apparently viable alternatives and it
> would be a battle we in all likelihood would lose.  We run four open
> sectionals a year, Unit 439 runs one — Anacortes — and it has been anchored
> to the 2nd Sunday in July for years.
>
> I think the idea of trying to get dates by preempting other units’
> traditional dates, as a basis for arguing we are entitled to them, is not a
> good one.  The D19 Tournament Coordinator is a party to the sanctioning
> process and would not permit units to do this, in my opinion.
>
> Tim
>
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> On Jul 12, 2018, at 10:29 AM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 on all of Eric's mail & thoughts, including the question of why we have
> to give up July 12-14. Is it that Anacortes got a sanction in already or
> something?  If that's the way we need to reserve dates, maybe we can talk
> through minimum requirements to submit so that we're on the schedule, even
> if we know location might shift.
>
> --
> JC Chupack
> Senior Manager of Product Management, Amazon.com
> Seattle ACBL Unit 446 <http://bridgeinseattle.org/> Secretary, Electronic
> Contact, & Publicity Chair
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Eric Sieg <easieg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Comments on the possibilities listed:
>>
>> A) I don't think this is worth considering. So many strikes against it.
>> It is REALLY soon after our KO sectional. There is a regional at that time
>> in our district. It follows immediately after Penticton which a LOT of
>> Seattle people go to.
>> B) This seems like a good date, with the main strike being that it is so
>> soon after the KO sectional. This conflicts with a few sporting things that
>> might draw away a couple players (Kim and maybe Jeff would be at hoopfest,
>> I might be at a tennis tournament) but when I put on my board member hat
>> this seems like a good time.
>> C) Will lose some people who are out of town, but seems good otherwise.
>> D) Ugh. Right after Vegas? I second Matt's opinion that the attendance
>> would be poor. Vegas is an easy flight from Seattle and is typically the
>> most highly attended NABC location of them all.
>>
>> One question: why do we have to give up on July 12-14? That's typically
>> been our weekend and we've already lined up right of first refusal in Kent.
>> Can we approach them and say we already have a location locked in and
>> that's been our typical weekend for years? It seems like having a history
>> of going that weekend in past years would give us some sort of scheduling
>> rights to that weekend next year. If their site isn't available that's one
>> thing, but if they are just trying to poach our weekend I'm not sure we
>> should have to just give it up.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> Ann Romeo wrote:
>>
>> I too like the date of July 5-7.  I suspect this will work for
>> Bothell--can't imagine the union doing much over the 4th...might work for
>> MI, too?  But I also believe that some of us will be out of town on an
>> extended vacation due to the 5th being a day off for most companies.
>> a
>>
>> Ann Romeo
>> Personal email: annromeo at gmail.com
>> Local home: 206-526-0871
>> Work email: Ann.Romeo at ORCInternational.com
>> Work direct dial: 212-463-6331
>> My cell: 425-615-1413 (text ok)
>>
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>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:45 PM, LARRY HOLDREN <larryholdren at comcast.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all:  My first reaction is that July 5-7 is intriguing. May be a lot
>>> of people out of town but also a lot like me that want to avoid traveling
>>> crowds and a bridge game close to home sounds good.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> *From:* Tim White <trkwhite at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:13 PM
>>> *To:* Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
>>> *Subject:* [SBU Board] 2019 Sun Tan Sectional Update
>>>
>>> While in the past I would have sent this email to Tournament Committee
>>> members only, I would like to update the entire board on information that
>>> bears on alternatives and the choice for the 2019 Sun Tan Sectional.
>>>
>>> Unit 439 has confirmed they plan to run the 2019 Anacortes Sectional on
>>> July 12-14, 2019 — thus that weekend won’t work for us.  That weekend also
>>> would have been the 2019 weekend we would presumably have had first right
>>> of refusal for with Kent Commons given our rental this coming weekend.
>>>
>>> I asked Matt Koltnow, D19 Tournament Coordinator, to weigh in on (a)
>>> dates for which he would OK a sanction for the 2019 Sun Tan Sectional and
>>> (b) thoughts on the dates, including attendance prospects.
>>>
>>> The window of dates for the 2019 Sun Tan is bounded on the front end by
>>> Penticton (June 10-16) and on the back end by Lynnwood (August 19-25).  In
>>> between is the 4th of July; Anacortes 12-14 July; NABC Las Vegas 18-28
>>> July.  There is a regional in Eugene Aug 5-11 and a sectional in Portland
>>> (Vancouver, WA) Aug 16-18; though probably not untenable conflicts for us
>>> they are within a week of so of Lynnwood.  Matt did not rule out either
>>> 21-23 June which will see either him or Jenni in Anchorage for the
>>> regional, or the dates of the Wenatchee progressive (7-20 July and 3
>>> August).
>>>
>>> This appears to leave us with four alternatives as indicated on the
>>> refreshed 2019 Tournament Planning Calendar, see link here:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NYcdlwx2208f2eEXPqM0ZNTz
>>> dRzmhov6w4cdUG4SkN8/edit#
>>>
>>> (a) June 21-23.  Falls within the dates of the Anchorage Regional (see
>>> note above).  This would be only 3 and 1/2 weeks after our KO sectional.
>>>
>>> (b). June 28-30.  No conflicts.
>>>
>>> (c). July 5-7.  No conflicts.  Matt commented that "could well be an
>>> excellent choice; it has the potential to have better than normal Friday
>>> attendance without the annoyance of the holiday itself.”
>>>
>>> (d) Aug 2-4.  No conflicts.  Matt’s comment: "it is the weekend
>>> immediately after [NABC] Las Vegas. I think attendance at a sectional that
>>> weekend would be very poor.”
>>>
>>> I would like to ask focals to please check on availability of sites on
>>> the 2019 dates above:
>>> John — Kent
>>> John — MIHS Upper Commons
>>> Tim — Bothell
>>>
>>> All,
>>> (Un)availability of sites will likely further winnow down our
>>> alternatives.  In the mean time, please give thought as to which 2019 dates
>>> above you feel would be best for the Sun Tan Sectional.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>>
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