Re: Alternatives that don´t suck?

[Lonni J Friedman]

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> Excerpt from ¨LDAP server broken after upgrade¨.
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Lonni J Friedman <netllama at gmail.com> wrote
>
> < I'm rapidly reaching the point of wanting to ditch Fedora, if only all
> < the alternatives didn't suck more  :P
>
> So, I´m curious. What would be the criteria for an alternative that
> wouldn´t suck?
>
> In running Fedora, you´ve by definition expressed a preference for
> bleeding edge packages, and those are frequently broken (if only for a
> few days).
>
> Are we talking about servers or desktops?
>
> If it´s servers, I´m quite sure CentOS or Debian stable or even Debian
> testing (as Mr.
> Bandel can testify) would suck considerably less. If it´s desktop,
> there are any number of candidates. The Debian sid (also bleeding
> edge) that I´m running only has about 3 serious hits per year, but you
> wouldn´t want to try this on a server.

I can't stand Debian's religious zealotry, so that rules them out
automatically (I have no patience for the iceweasel nonsense).  Also,
Debian's lack of a mature, coherent automated installation mechanism
(for example kickstart, or even SUSE's autoyast abomination) is a
major drawback.

RHEL (and therefore the kernel that CentOS steals - and yes, they
blatantly steal Redhat's work) kernel is too old for most modern
hardware, and overall RHEL has such a ridiculously limited number of
available packages that I'd end up spending half my time rolling my
own.  If I need to go that route, I might as well use Gentoo.  I don't
have the time to be building my own packages just to get everything
that I need.

SUSE is mildly tempting, except that they're run by Novell, who are a
bunch of M$ collaborators.

One thing that I neglected to clarify originally, as that I've been
reasonably satisfied with Fedora up until 9.  9 has been nothing but
problems.

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