[OT]: RH Whoredom [ was Re: OT: I feel vindicated ...]

Matthew Carpenter matt
Fri Feb 25 13:27:19 PST 2005


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Chong Yu Meng wrote:

| A. Khattri wrote: | On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Net Llama! wrote: | | |>I
| know i'm the resident RH whore and all, | | | Uh-huh. |
|
| Well, count me in as another RH whore ! I never used to like the
| company, but, more and more, I'm beginning to understand and
| appreciate where they're coming from.
|
| | Its a big deal to those of us that said "Nooo!" and got burned
| when RH | pretty much abandoned us folks (frankly I was already
| pissed over the | insane release schedule). Now we're all running
| other distros (in | some cases realizing they are better) and never
| going back. But its good | to see a company admit the mis-step.
|
| You can't seriously be referring to RH here, Ajai ! Come on! At
| least RH gave us Fedora and that should count for something. In any
| case, nobody owes you a living.
|
| As for their insane release schedule, I'm not sure if it is such a
| bad thing. Let me explain:
|
| Each release of FC has some new feature or quirk in it. FC1 had
| SELinux, FC2 had the 2.6 kernel, FC3 had HAL, just to name a few.
| Sure, there were problems : SELinux didn't work in FC1 initially
| and the 2.6 kernel in FC2 had problems with certain hardware
| configurations and broke IBM's Java (at one time) and FC3's HAL
| together with the kernel caused lots of problems for those of us
| with Symbios SCSI controllers (is it fixed yet?). I'm not calling
| them features or excusing them, but each new technology or feature
| needs to start somewhere.
|
| By putting these "bleeding edge" features inside each release, lots
| of people have a preview of the technology. SELinux, the 2.6 kernel
| and HAL are some of the BIG changes IMHO that Linux is seeing, so I
| think we should expect problems. But with time and testing by
| users, these features inevitably become stable and usable, and that
| is a good thing, though it comes through pain and frustration.

I agree with you, Chong.  I don't like Fedora, but I can understand
the value of using what they have dubbed as a no-support, experimental
version to introduce new breaks.
With that said, though, I'll continue to prefer SuSE, Debian-based,
and Source distros over RH/F.  It has to do with Package and distro
management.  I'm glad to see RH getting better, but they still don't
compare to the package management of any of the aforementioned
distro-genres.  And SuSE is just a good-looking, tightly integrated,
easily managed system.  Their focus on KDE has given them the KDE
Control Center which they plug their tools into for a one-stop-admin
tool for most things.

Ain't OSS great!  I'm happy that you're happy with RH/F.  I'm happy
with SuSE and Ubuntu (and not unhappy with Gentoo, just have less time
to invest in it).
Maybe someday I'll try pure Debian.

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