Crunch time: Debian, Libranet or FC1?

[James McDonald]

Chong Yu Meng wrote:

> Hi Matthew !
>
> A lot of people say that Red Hat/Fedora versions are not suitable to 
> be used on servers.

RedHat Fedora core 1-2 is a testing release. RedHats Enterprise Linux is 
the 'certified' server product. Using Fedora as a server means you are 
using the community development product as a server base.... (not sure 
if this is a great idea) If you are running any sort of Enterprise 
database/application (Oracle etc) then you have to go with a certified 
product in order to benefit from the support offerings of both the 
Server and Database/Application vendor.

> I find that funny, not because I think that Fedora/RH are the most 
> excellent distributions in the world, but because I have never met a 
> Linux distribution that did not need a lot of tweaking. I think Linux 
> servers are as secure as you make them to be. Just ask Swapana Ghosh, 
> whose servers seem to get cracked into every 6 months.
>
> As for stability, I think Fedora packages are sometimes too bleeding 
> edge for my liking, but sometimes, it does help to have *some* of the 
> latest stuff, such as the 2.6 kernel which will be out in FC2. My 
> opinion of Red Hat has changed quite a lot in the past 2 years -- I 
> used to think that their distribution was buggier and their business 
> model reeked of Microsoft. 

When Redhat put their current website up and started sending copious 
product update notifications .... I felt the same. However since they 
seperated their business and development lines it's probably now a case 
of you get what you pay for.

> But since they managed to stay afloat, released Fedora to the 
> community, and since I've become more familiar with their distro, I 
> think I'll stick to Fedora for a long time.

I have found that because Redhat has had the RHCE course with the 
courseware being a good administrative introduction to Redhat product I 
tend to stay with Redhat.... Although I have been flirting with other 
distributions I tend to come back to the redhat base...

>
>
> Matthew Carpenter wrote:
>
>> In theory, Gentoo would be my choice for servers....  Only everything 
>> you want/need.  However, I'm still getting stuck on my second 
>> installation.  It's probably my own doing, as I chose to domost of 
>> the install offnet using the LiveCD packages.  I'm sure nobody who is 
>> a guru ever does that so I'm probably shooting myself in the foot.  
>> Not to mention not having read all the docs yet, just several 
>> renditions of the Gentoo handbook and the help from guys on this list.
>
Is there a way in Gentoo to make identical server configurations by 
scripting the install process or is it all manual selection / configuration?

>>
>> But for me and my clients, we'll use SuSE 8.2pro for just a while 
>> longer yet :)  It's where we stuck all our efforts for the BigBlock 
>> network appliance and it's proven quite stable and friendly.  I do 
>> keep trying with this Gentoo box, though.  Most of the time spend d/l 
>> has been over ISDN, though.  I've left it at work running emerge 
>> world using the 4 DS-3's and when I came in it errored out again.  I 
>> have this striking feeling I will be wiping it and starting over 
>> again before finding the sheer bliss that everyone keeps attributing 
>> to Gentoo.  I am still a believer... just one who is struggling with 
>> my faith and applying it to the real world...  Maybe I'm asking too 
>> much by wanting a KDE desktop system...
>
Blue Curve is kind of annoying because all the redhat extensions means 
that KDE isn't really KDE but I use XFCE anyway.

>>
>> Thanks all, BTW, I do appreciate the help.  :)
>>
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