Have you read this? http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3297 On Thursday 17 April 2003 11:30 pm, someone claiming to be Joel Hammer wrote: <mondo snippage> -- RedHat Psyche 8.0, stock kernel, KDE 3.1.CVS, Xfree86 4.2.1 9:00am up 1 day, 20:18, 2 users, load average: 0.52, 0.96, 0.46 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts