<OT>imap

[Andrew Mathews]

Jack Berger wrote:
> I'm painfully aware of the fact that I don't know all that I don't know
> about imap (among other things).
> 
> Anyway, the problem is that since we moved our mail server from
> solaris/sendmail to msexchange, I don't see all of the mail in my inbox from
> an imap client. Using mslookout I can see all messages (one would hope
> anyway), but using either netscape or pine there are always a few missing in
> action. As far as I know I don't do anything different from one time to the
> next, and there are no special permissions on my inbox or any folders. I
> keep all folders on the server along with the inbox. Moving a message from
> the inbox to a folder doesn't make it visible to the client if it is
> initially not seen by the client.

Weird. Have you synched your folders recently? In Netscape it's under 
File->Offline>Download/Sync Now. The folders have to be selected for 
offline usage. (Click Select from the above menu, and put a check mark 
beside the ones to include)

> Any clues to what is going on? Looking on the UW imap site and a few others
> devoted to imap gives no clue of this ever happening to anyone else.
> 
> Also, realizing that imap is server based, is there anyway to truley manage
> mail on the server, say to delete or move a message via a client so that it
> is really deleted or moved on the server? If I move a message or delete it,
> any imap client sees that result, but if I then log on to the server via
> mslookout, none of the changes are there. Everything is still in the inbox
> folder. This obviously is a design feature of imap, but it would be good to
> be able to manage folders on the server for real instead of the virtual
> reality of the imap client.

Server based message management is IMAP's primary feature. When you move 
a message from Inbox to Personal, or another folder, that *should* be 
seen by another session once it's synched. e.g. move the message while 
at work and when connecting from home, the message is filed in the same 
place you put it from work, thus everything's identical, and messages 
don't have to be left on the server for another pop3 client to be able 
to access. My suspicion is that there's an issue with either the 
Exchange server, or the Outlook client, or maybe both, but I can't offer 
any suggestions in regards to either of them. But I'd try to sync the 
mailboxes first.

> Thanks,
> -jhb-
> 
> PS - I'll accept condolences, but no criticism, for the move to msexchange.
> I had no part in the decision. In fact I successfully beat it down for a
> number of years until we were the losing party in a corporate merger. It has
> been a real pita (in more ways than one).
>

I'm sure you did your best. Practicality and popularity are mutually 
exclusive.

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Andrew Mathews
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