<OT> Re: we shall remember them

[ronnie gauthier]

On 21 Oct 2002 00:18:31 -0800
Richard Thompson <mergannt at nushtel.com> wrote:

Thats stale news. I think some of the cartoons that show Bush as a
cowboy are funny. I saw one of him as a dominatrix - very funny. The
United States has mostly been viewed in some sort of unfavorable light
for many years now. Do we deserve some of it? Yes. Show me a country
that has any type of resource that is completely blameless from
anything. But much of the blame is out of decades of habit and hate.
That we want to keep the oil supply steady and stable is no surprise,
so does half the world. 


As for sadam. Bitch slapping him is not the answer. Killing him and
establishing a decent government in Iraq is the answer. I say this
because the alternative is that sooner or later he will use a WMD or
give some away, if he has not already. I dont care who he hates...the
golden rule in survival is "the enemy of my enemy is my
friend...at least for now". If terrorist can hurt us with his help he
will give it. I personally believe that terrorist cells already have
biological/nuclear agents here at home. They just lack a decent
dispersal system and are smart enough to wait until they have one rather
than waste it just killing a few thousand.

I think to tie terrorist groups reason for existance to our economic
policies or external activities is foolish. Terrorists would exist in
opposition to any policy. They would not necerssarily be the same
people but radical opposition would form.

And I guess I did miss your point...I though we were just having a
friendly cup of coffee with sadam. You can drink yours but I'll
pass...forgot to bring my taste tester. ;-)



>Uhhhh, you missed my point ... If you read news from elsewhere than the
>United States, or critically reviewed the news here, you would note a
>growing world-wide distrust of what is beginning to be perceived as an
>American cowboy political agenda.  It has apparently not been lost on a
>significant portion of the world's population that the American
>doctrine of freedom, human rights and the rule of civil law seems
>increasingly to go only so far as it coincides with America's economic
>interests - abroad and at home.
>
>America can bitchslap Saddam anytime it wants, and can do it again and
>again if it wants to, but what's the point?  There have always been
>Saddam's, there will always be Saddam's and at present all America is
>doing is playing into his hand of "poor Iraq, see how the mean old
>American's persecute us Muslims to protect their oil supply?"  
>
>The mistake America made the first time around of not burning the
>nation of Iraq to the ground using Saddam's flaming corpse as a torch
>should not now be compounded by useless rhetoric and superpower
>bullying. Better that America reflect that there is a world out there,
>much of which views it as avoricious, wasteful and arrogant, and
>exhibit some of the deep humility and wisdom that properly compliments
>incredible power.
>
>And then, if this Saddam or any other, one man or many, comes along
>and, after being duly and publicly warned (which he certainly has been)
>the anger and horrible retribution with which our nation would rise to
>vengence (and that's exactly what it is) would not be seen as the
>unfocused, petulent lashing out of an oil bloated brat, but rather as
>the just retribution of the righteously offended.
>
>As for me personally, the very least, when it is my turn to be judged
>by the men and women who will surely die in the coming years, I hope
>that they judge me and my nation worth the terrible price they will
>have paid and turn their hauntings elsewhere.
>
>I'm done - sorry for the intrusion.
>
>- Richard
>
> 
>
>On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 21:31, ronnie gauthier wrote:
>> Uhhh
>> you missed the point.
>> To take care of him BEFORE he has true WMD capabilities.
>> Because my answer to your coffe clutch question(be I sadam) is....go
>> flag yourself.
>> 
>> On 20 Oct 2002 18:19:39 -0800
>> Richard Thompson <mergannt at nushtel.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Uhhhhh, how about this instead ...
>> >
>> >You are my asshole neighbor.  You throw rocks, you make noises ...
>> >
>> >I buy you a cup of coffee, we talk ... I make it perfectly clear
>that I> >have no intention of changing my family's life to accomodate
>your grand> >vision of pan-asshole-unity.  I have no intention of
>trying to bully> >anyone into protecting my wheat at the expense of
>theirs, but I will be> >working with our neighbors to insure that you
>don't get any matches. >
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