Yet another package manager

Matthew Carpenter matt
Thu Dec 23 12:41:40 PST 2004


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Problem is, whether it's the rims or the rubber, the wheels we're
running on ain't that great.  I have yet to really poke into APT yet
(the rims, or package management infrastructure) but even it seems to
have its difficulties in that the sources tend to be HTTP repositories.
~  (does APT support FTP as well?)  I've been using Aptitude as a front
end to APT-GET.  Problem is that we are behind a kludgey transparent
WebSense implementation which often breaks HTTP traffic (at least when
it wants you to authenticate).  I'm also a bit lost on Broken packages,
and it's not necessarily intuitive what or how things are managed.
Granted, I've just mentioned a "transport" problem and a "interface"
problem, arguably not even the fault of the system itself, but things
that can turn people off nonetheless.

Perhaps these guys have never tried APT or worse, went with their first
impression, are sick of RPM's and the infrastructure which hinders them
(or lack thereof), or some other combination of APT/DEB/RPM
disgruntlement...  I can't read the story right  now (off line) but
IIRC, these are the guys who are trying to manage DEB's, RPM's, tgz, etc
from an intuitive interface???

Before you get upset about "someone reinventing the wheel", remember one
of the best tenets of Open Source: Choice.
If nobody ever reinvented the wheel we would not have the choices.  I
realize that it makes it easier to make choices when there are a limited
number, but 1) there is always a limited number of choices and 2) their
way may be better!  On an off chute, I was rather intrigued that MEPIS
uses Kpackage.  Wow!  Talk about a return to COL days.  :)

Tim Wunder wrote:
| Sick of yum, apt-deb, apt-rpm, urpmi, red carpet, et al?
|
| Well, someone's reinventing the wheel again:
|
| Overheard on the atrpms user list:
| There is a very ambitious project that will soon appear in ATrpms'
| repos:
|
| http://linux-br.conectiva.com.br/~niemeyer/smart/doc/README.html#overview
| http://zorked.net/smart/screenshots.html
|

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