A chuckle about FC3

[Net Llama!]

On 12/10/2004 05:34 PM, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
> Net Llama! wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Alma J Wetzker wrote:
>>
>>> Even with the final conclusion given in full context, I am not 
>>> tempted to go
>>> with FC?.  A decade or more ago I really wanted to develop the 
>>> expertise of
>>> some of the real masters like we have on this list.  At this point, I 
>>> would
>>> rather tinker with my lego mindstorm than my computer.  I want the 
>>> computer to
>>> Just Work Dammit (tm).  Being a student also lends to that attitude.  
>>> I cannot
>>> afford to have the system down AT ALL during a semester.  (Which is 
>>> why my
>>> gentoo is borken, too long between updates.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe i'm just lucky, but I've got two production servers running FC3, 
>> and
>> haven't had a single problem with either.  I'll be upgrading a third from
>> FC2 to FC3 as soon as I haev the time.
>>
>> I think the majority of semi-unstable components in FC3 are the desktop
>> stuff.  However, since i use XFCE, i don't even hit that stuff much at
>> all on my workstations that are running FC3.
> 
> 
> I suspect that what you are experiencing is a bit more than luck.  I get 
> the general impression that you are quite particular about how you want 
> your systems setup.  I wonder things like, do you accept all default 
> configurations, or do you alter things to suit your needs, do you run 
> the default kernel, or do you recompile for your applications, do you go 
> through the running services with a fine tooth comb to get exactly what 
> you want?  I believe that you have a broad understanding of what makes a 
> stable system and you tailor your personal setup to that standard.  My 
> guess would be that you would have good luck with stable systems with 
> any distro you cared to install.

Overall, i just don't have the time to be builting custom kernels for 
all of the production hardware anymore.  Unfortunately, my dept at 
$employer is stretched thin, so having time to build custom kernels is a 
luxery that I can no longer afford.  So for the Fedora based production 
servers, I just use the latest from Fedora (which is currently 
2.6.9+assorted-FC3-patches).  I definitely tweak the boxes overall just 
to run what I need and nothing more, apply all updates from Fedora as 
they're released, and monitor the logs regularly.  The reality is Fedora 
isn't really bleeding edge at all for server type packages.  They ship 
the latest stable versions of apache-2.x, ssh, bind, sendmail, mysql, 
php, postgresql, rsync etc, and that's all i'm using.  I use only XFS 
for the filesystem, so even if the box does crash, i'm not spending any 
time having to deal with fscking.

> I envy your understanding of the systems and ability to work through 
> problems.  School is hard enough for me right now that I don't have the 
> free brain cells to keep up with linux (or windows or mac).

Well, alot of it is my day job, and i'm forced to wear many hats.

> I apologize for starting this.  The parent post just hit me the wrong 
> way and I am getting ready for finals.  Not an excuse, but please try to 
> understand. I think it was taking issue with how something was said 
> without addressing what was said that did it.  Sorry.

Nothing to apologize for, i don't see anything wrong in what you're saying.


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