[Capr-announce] [Capr-discussion] NOW WE ARE TALKING

Sat Dec 10 08:34:13 PST 2005

This is so well said.  I am forwarding this to PRA and telling them we
are in full support of the Alliance.

Add our organization to the list.

Preston Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: capr-discussion-bounces at lists.celestial.com
[mailto:capr-discussion-bounces at lists.celestial.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Venrick
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:02 PM
To: DISCUSSION LIST CAPR; WaterRightsOlymicPennsGroup
Subject: [Capr-discussion] NOW WE ARE TALKING

NOW WE ARE TALKING!  ... see Preston's point and emails below.

Combining our property rights cause with other strong supportive and
synergetic groups especially groups  that gather media attention  plus
garner  sympathy and support of the masses will energize our stand
enormously!

We desperately need the support of the urban property owners enmasse and
the Kelo New London decision has created a create opportunity out of a
national disaster .  Intellectual property rights would further pull in
more urban support.  

Unfortunately this has become a political party card, i.e. taking
property rights vs. giving government/environmental more rights.  My
take on the recent elections here in King County show that people are
loath to vote for a party not their own even if it means the rural
property owners are suffering.  I heard the Democrats were furious that
the Republicans did not join them on the Critical Area Ordinance vote?
If this is so, that tells me that the Republicans or enough of them were
enticed to vote for it in prior forms.  Your private property rights or
for that matter any personal rights and freedoms are becoming a
political foot ball.  That is to say our fundamental constitutional
rights are being parlayed  to the highest bidder in congress, the
courts, the county councils, the city councils, the unincorporated area
councils, you name it; your rights are up for grab by the strongest
political group! 

As long as fundamental issues such as property rights or any basic
rights and freedom  are not held to a constitutional standard or a
higher standard (GOD) this nation will fall as all those civilizations
in history have when they loose their standard on right and wrong.
Freedom and liberty are not relative.  You either have them or you
don't.  I strongly believe we are being shaken to the core in this
country and around the world to force "US" to take a stand on what that
standard will become.  The standard was there before and over the last
30 plus years freedom and liberty  has suffered a slow creeping erosion
to the near death state we are in.  Property owners are sadly one of the
few groups that can see this because they have had the personal
experience.

When the people rise up and demand that both sides of the aisle
including any party stand firm on the basic constitutional and God given
rights this great nation has been blessed with, then there will be a
great positive shift.  When you see basic rights being split up by the
government and non government organizations (NGO), you know for sure we
have lost our way.   Once we rise above the political shark pool with
the sovereignty of the people and our basic freedoms and liberties,
then you know their has been a great shift back to the basics.

This package below would help us create allies where there was no
awareness or concern from government takings from rural property owners
before.  There is no greater stimulus than having the personal
experience of the government or the environmentalist or the UN or any
foreign power taking away your personal freedom and liberty.
Unfortunately each of us in some way has to experience a personal loss
before being catalyzed into action.   In a masochist way, it seems the
critical mass of this country's private property owners need to be taken
away to the extent they are able to have some experience or at least
through a friend or relative who has had a horror story with the likes
of King County DDES.   It has to get worse before it gets better and
this is definitely happening around the United States and especially in
and around large cities and counties. 

So many people are on the fence and have a thousand reasons not to act
and this  apathy  is taken advantage of by aggressive government
agencies and selfish politicians only interested in perpetuating their
jobs and selfish groups who plan on what they can take from you to
perpetuate their agenda.   All of this behavior is about greed and power
including taking peoples power away from them and  not about freedom and
liberty and empowering the people.

Jack Venrick

Enumclaw, WA 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Preston Drew <mailto:pgdrew at centurytel.net>  

To: CAPR-discussion at lists.celestial.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:32 AM

Subject: [Capr-discussion] Interesting property rights
addition;Intellectual property rights

The Property Rights Alliance adds intellectual property to the fight.

If rural property owners with their issues can unite with suburban/urban
property owners with their issues (Kelo) and then add those interested
in intellectual property rights, we could be an unstoppable force.

Preston

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott A. LaGanga [mailto:slaganga at propertyrightsalliance.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:32 PM
To: 'Jim Prencipe'; 'Chuck Cushman'; 'David Ridenour'; 'Peyton Knight';
AASPO at aol.com; pgdrew at centurytel.net; 'Dunlop, Becky Norton'; 'Myron
Ebell'; Andrew M. Langer
Subject: Joint IP/Physical Property Rights Eminent Domain Coalition
Letter

Friends,

Could you please take a look at this and ensure that this is something
the property rights folks could sign on to without a problem.  This will
be the quintessential property rights link for the IP and physical
rights community to sign on to and the press will love it.  Each
organization's logo will go across the top and then signatures will be
placed at the bottom.

Let me know any major qualms as I want to move this out as soon as
possible to organizations ranging from automakers and bio firms to land
rights and homebuilders for sign-on.  I already have support from folks
in the IP community to sign onto the letter.  I would like to release
this letter Friday to all organizations to begin to sign-on.  

Thank you to all of you who have done a tremendous job in leading the
property rights charge.

Note: a TESRA coalition letter PRA has worked on with the help of our
friends at the National Center will also be sent out this week to
interested parties in order for us to send a broad coalition letter to
the Senate.  

Regards,

Scott 

Scott A. LaGanga

Executive Director
Property Rights Alliance (PRA)

1920 L Street, NW  Suite 200

Washington, DC 20036

202-390-6978
 <mailto:slaganga at a> slaganga at propertyrightsalliance.org

www.propertyrightsalliance.org

 <http://www.propertyrightsalliance.org>  

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