<div dir="ltr">Yes, let's figure out an event for I/N players. Our previous I/N events -- which really were more straight-up-newcomer events -- are a good model.<div><br></div><div>This is the kind of game that the unit could run on RealBridge if we don't care about awarding masterpoints.</div><div><br></div><div>If we want to award masterpoints, we should get the Unit's VACB credentials up and running, and run the game ourselves on BBO; we would be required to charge a game fee of at least $3.00.</div><div><br></div><div>--David</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 12:37 PM Ann Romeo <<a href="mailto:annromeo@gmail.com">annromeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I totally agree- no interference with Club games! That is NOT our goal ever, but esp in this environment. And yeah, let's try to do something for I/N, and esp for novices later in the spring.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">My thinking for the novice crowd is a Friday evening pairs game, aimed at those with fewer than, say 10 masterpoints? We may be able to target these folk and then include in the event a zoom meeting that helps them with BBO and explains a bit more about IMPs, MPs and the like, tournaments, etc etc. Meet board members, talk about the bridge community, etc. A virtual version of what we did last year in the spring.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Something for a later discussion for sure.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">Ann</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Ann Romeo<br>Personal email: <a href="mailto:annromeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">annromeo@gmail.com</a></div>
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<div style="color:black;font:14pt "Comic Sans MS",sans-serif">It's a great idea, JC. We could put some money in the winners' BBO accounts. Divide $446 by 4 or give each winner $44.60 We're pretty flush, according to Tom B.
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Subject: [SBU Board] Faux sectionals (e.g., Valentine's weekend) - how to broaden appeal?<br>
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<div>As I was putting together the publicity for the "faux sectional" we voted on last meeting for Valentine's weekend, I was thinking that one issue here is that unless you're going for the Jabon trophy (0-20) or Microsoft trophy (top 5% of area players), this event series isn't offering much for you. At our normal sectionals, we do a lot to make sure that there's things for I/N and for mid-level players via stratification and flighting.</div>
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<div>One idea Scott & I were tossing around last night was to create some "trophy points" races for mid-level and novice players, even though there's no actual trophy for those groups. We could use the GNT flighting/brackets (to avoid any implication that we picked to include or exclude ourselves in various brackets):</div>
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<div>So basically, we'd have 5 points races this year. Jabon would be if you start the year with 0-20. The three above would be for B/C/D. Then there's the "open" award which is the Microsoft trophy. And in any race, you can win the race above your level, just like when you stratify an event.</div>
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<div>I'd say we could also establish a youth award, except that the ACBL rosters don't give us ages, so I can't easily determine who qualifies for that. :)</div>
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