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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with John.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Monty Gray</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:judgejohn@msn.com">John Weinberg</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:34 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com">Seattle ACBL Unit Board</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SBU Board] Alarming Accusations</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>My view: if a person has provided her name, and says she does not care with whom we share the information she has provided, we should provide the name and the information to Bryan, and give him a chance to respond.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>If a person has not provided her name, or has not authorized us to share the information with Bryan, we should not disclose it to him; but we should disregard it for all purposes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Monty suggested that Tim contact again the sources who have not given total clearance for disclosure, and ask for clarification as to their wishes. If there is time to do this, I support that suggestion. But if for some reason there is not time, I think we should go with only the info which falls in the first category, and disregard the rest. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>John W.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Sbuboard <sbuboard-bounces+judgejohn=msn.com@mailman.celestial.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Raymond Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 09, 2018 12:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SBU Board] Alarming Accusations<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>John, We will be editing the memo tomorrow. To make sure I understand, we can share information from the named accusers, but should leave out the background information from the employee who wished to remain annymous? This sounds pretty easy, and most of allegations seem to come from the other two accusers. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ray<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:52 PM John Weinberg <<a href="mailto:judgejohn@msn.com">judgejohn@msn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>I agree with Monty’s suggestions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>We should definitely give Bryan a chance to respond.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>We cannot share with Bryan allegations and information unless Tim is authorized to share its content and source.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>And we ourselves should do our best to disregard such information totally.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>It is much like asking a jury to disregard certain testimony they have already heard. Lawyers (and judges) call it “un-ringing a bell.” Frequently it doesn’t make much practical sense in that context, and might not in ours. But we should do it the best we can. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>John W.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:14.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><b>From:</b> Sbuboard <sbuboard-bounces+judgejohn=<a href="mailto:msn.com@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank">msn.com@mailman.celestial.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Monty Gray<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Seattle ACBL Unit Board <<a href="mailto:sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank">sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [SBU Board] Alarming Accusations<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>I agree with this; but I’d like Bryan to hear exactly what the Board was told. It’s often difficult to respond convincingly to nonspecific allegations without knowing who made them. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>As I recall, one of the sources didn’t want to be identified, one said that she didn’t care whom her information was shared with, and one didn’t express a position on the subject. I think Tim should get back to the people and confirm whether they are or are not willing to have their accusations and/or identities shared with Bryan, but tell them that many members of the Board, maybe all, will give little or no weight to accusations to which Bryan has no opportunity to respond, or that are made anonymously.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>I wouldn’t give Bryan a copy of Tim’s memo, however. I think Tim should read the portions dealing with the allegations from Horn Lake (not the parts about Tim’s discussions with David and Jeff), or such portions as the sources permit, to Bryan, and that this should occur well in advance of our meeting with Bryan so that he has a chance to collect his thoughts and prepare his response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Monty Gray<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:larryholdren@comcast.net" target="_blank">LARRY HOLDREN</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:30 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank">Seattle ACBL Unit Board</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SBU Board] Alarming Accusations<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I agree we should hear his side. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Larry</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt;background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:raysmiller@gmail.com" target="_blank" title="raysmiller@gmail.com">Raymond Miller</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt;background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Tuesday, August 07, 2018 1:45 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt;background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank" title="sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com">Seattle ACBL Unit Board</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt;background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> [SBU Board] Alarming Accusations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>HI all, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have been conversing with Tim the issue and now feel that I need to present this to the entire board and get a quick consensus. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am very disturbed about the allegations against Bryan. To me the allegations do not hang together. This smells very like a well planned character assassination and not a legitimate beef against a fellow employee. There are 3 areas of concern that I believe warrant further action on our part. 1. When Brian left headquarters to move to Seattle he was allowed to continue in his position remotely ( I hear he was asked to do this by his bosses). Ann and I see this as a requiring a great deal of trust and respect. Not something accorded to a trouble maker and non-team player. 2. The allegation that Bryan misappropriated funds. A crime. Yet there have been no consequences for this supposed crime. 3. Last fall Bryan taught on a cruise run by an ACBL client. This doesn't sound like an activity the league would have allowed if Bryan were a person in bad standing. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I understand the need to keep this issue confidential. But I feel that is conflict with what we should do. I believe that Bryan should be informed of these charges and given the chance to answer them in front of the board as soon as possible. I do not feel the board can make a fair choice in the upcoming election without hearing from Bryan. Anyone in his position should have the right to answer these charges. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Therefore I am asking the board to vote Yes or No. Bryan should be given a hearing before the board to answer these charges and should be informed in full of nature and specifics of the charges. That should take place at the September meeting.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Please note, I believe this is a very delicate matter and that Tim has handled it well thus far. I do not want the letter Tim read to us to be made available to Bryan in full, because I do not think he needs to know who was involved in receiving information and passing it on on our end. Please carefully consider your position, send out any comments you have and send on your decision as soon as possible. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thank you for reading this and thank you ahead of time for tackling this very difficult situation. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Ray</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><img border=0 width=472 height=1 style='width:4.9166in;height:.0069in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.png@01D42F50.6B214A60" alt="cid:image002.png@01D42F50.6B214A60"></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Sbuboard mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank">Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard" target="_blank">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Sbuboard mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank">Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com</a><br><a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard" target="_blank">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>