<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div aria-label="Compose body">Hi all,<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">I'm not going to be able to make the meeting tonight, so just wanted to add my $0.02 on a couple of things...<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">Regarding the issues with Sunday Swiss length and lunch break, if we stop serving lunch - and I think the reasons stated in earlier e-mails are good reasons for doing so - it follows we need a longer break, and then less time at the game itself. But, what if we can use that time more efficiently? The biggest waste of time at the Swiss teams is always the wait for new matches between rounds. With fewer, longer rounds we'd have less of that. Would a 6 round, 9 boards/round format be able to serve all masters in terms of compressing the time of the event while losing only 2 boards of bridge against our current normal practice?<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">I also want to state my opposition to turning the Saturday pairs into single session events, at least for the open section. I think having a 2-session event gives a little more weight and prestige to the event, and makes winning more special than for a single session event. I think that's more important to the open players than total masterpoint yield. If we can keep A a double-session but make BCD two single sessions, it sounds like that might make the most people happy?<br></div><div aria-label="Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label="Compose body">Thanks, Mike<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Eric Sieg" <easieg@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Seattle ACBL Unit Board" <sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, March 6, 2017 10:29:49 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SBU Board] Sweetheart Sectional Postmortem notes<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Dumping some feedback here since its probably more time efficient to dump longer thoughts via email rather than sharing them at the meeting. Then we can save tonight for discussion.</div><div><br></div><div>Fast pairs leading into a 10:30 start sounds like a cool idea. That might pull people in who were concerned about a late evening followed by a morning start. That said, I think it would be incredibly sad to remove the BAM event completely. There are very few opportunities to play the BAM format outside of nationals and there are hundreds of opportunities to play matchpoints and dozens of opportunities to play Swiss and KOs. While some don't like them (especially outside the A set), they are something that those who do like them tend to look forward to and be excited about. Even if its a minority of players that love them, it seems like a good idea to still occasionally give that minority the event that they love. They are constituents as well and I think part of our mission should be to look after all groups rather than just the simple majority in every decision. Maybe we move the BAM event to a Friday evening in a sectional that is still afternoon/evening on Saturday next year?</div><div><br></div><div>A 2nd round clock would be good. The unit used to have one but it wasn't present at the Feb sectional. Maybe we should purchase another?</div><div><br></div><div>Having 750 and 2500 as options seemed very popular</div><div><br></div><div>Shortening the Sunday Swiss would be a bummer! Maybe instead we could explore starting it a bit earlier? Especially after a 10:30 start time on Saturday, starting at 10 on Sunday seems feasible.</div><div><br></div><div>For single vs two session pairs: It seems like the A set generally prefers 2 sessions and the BCD prefer single session events. Maybe do it like February but move the 2500 pairs event to single session as well? Another idea might be tweaking the flyers to make it more obvious that you can still play a single session for the two session events. I've seen something along the lines of "single session entries available" mentioned on other flyers. It also seems a lot less important to offer two single sessions on a daylight schedule because we're not pushing the end time super late. For the open, 2 sessions seems a lot better since it rewards consistency vs an unusually lucky session. I know I was pretty bummed to see Fircrest is two single sessions when looking at upcoming tournaments.</div><div><br></div><div>Eric</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 3:18 PM, William Campbell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwccsllc@me.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:jwccsllc@me.com">jwccsllc@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><div>On Mar 4, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Ann Romeo <<a href="mailto:annromeo@gmail.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:annromeo@gmail.com">annromeo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><span class=""><span class=""><br class="m_-7575730544245754233Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">My weigh-in (I'm away until Tuesday, and don't think calling in makes sense at Starbucks...)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">A cart is a great idea--sometimes venues have these, and they may our lives a lot easier (think Vasa). However, there will always be schlepping --as coffee needs to be dumped and baskets need to be rinsed before fresh pots are made. We may want to have a 5 gallon slop bucket, but actually I think some of this needs to be done away from the maddening crowds, for both safety and aesthetics.... BUT using a combo of water pitcher/jugs and a cart will make a lot of this a lot easier. All comes down to room in the trailer.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>A cart takes quite a bit of space, probably more than is available in the trailer. Are there carts available that fold/break down?</div><div><span class=""><span class=""><br></span></span><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Single session for everything? I wonder? For A events, eg, open pairs, there may be more people getting awards, but certainly the value goes down. I wonder if we can't make a compromise and make open events 2 session events, and bcd single session (but I'm not sure if that is better for things like gold rush pairs, where bigger points are awarded for pairs that can put together a good day's worth of bridge). I have a feeling that A players want the bigger pay offs (and if we're going to make a blanket change, I think we need to poll specifically As to see). Just my thoughts....I'll never forget one time doing well in both sessions of an open and number of points awarded for me and my partner's efforts--glorious.....</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Personally I prefer the 2-session events as they reward consistency, not to mention that the most points I've won in a sectional event was in February 2013 when Ted Bartunek and I won the 0-2000 pairs game (getting us almost twice as many as when we won the 2-session Open pairs event on Friday 2014 :-).</div><div><span class=""><span class=""><br></span></span><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Lunch breaks are long for those who finish fast, and sometimes too short for those who don't. I've been in both situations. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I like the idea of encouraging people to bring their lunch from home--but we also need to stress, NO REFRIGERATION, so that people don't expect us to store their food (this happens pretty near every time, btw--people want to store food, and take ice...)....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">And I can always use some help. hiring someone makes sense. Sometimes we've been lucky and I've been able to enlist the aid of Jenny Ballantyne and/or Dee Patrick. But here's something key--strength and size matters. There was a time caddies (especially Laurie's son) was able to help and was perfect, but them days are long gone. Let's talk about this when I'm back...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I LOVE the idea of fast pairs on Friday when we have a 7ish start (and recommend 7:15 start,btw), and the next day a 10:30 start. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT, and suspect it will be VERY popular. Did I say I love fast pairs when we have an early start the next day??</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I like fast pairs as well. The Friday evening games always seem to have fewer players than the afternoon.</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> Sbuboard mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com">Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com</a><br> <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Sbuboard mailing list<br>Sbuboard@mailman.celestial.com<br>http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/sbuboard<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>