[SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board review ASAP

Wed Jun 5 10:33:08 PDT 2019

If we are forcing people to pay for 2-sessions even though ~half of them
won't get to play a true 2-session event, I'm strongly opposed to this
event format. But, I don't think that's the case. For NABC events that have
qualifiers, you don't have to pay for the whole event to play the first
day...you buy a new entry if you qualify (just like a KO round), so I have
trouble believing that is the structure being applied at a sectional.

For what it's worth, I looked back to 2015, 2016, and 2017 flyers. We've
never treated the qual/final/consolation as a 2-session event on the
flyers. The consolation was noted as a single session event.

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:09 AM Mike Christensen <quirk_1 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we have always purchased a 2
> session entry at the time of purchase for the qualifying pairs.
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> I believe that if you wish to be eligible for the 2nd session of a 2
> session event, you have to purchase a 2 session entry at the time of
> purchase.  The consolation pairs is not a separate event.  It is for those
> that purchased a 2 session entry and did not qualify.
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> You can decline to play in the 2nd session, qualified or not, doesn’t
> matter, inform the director and they will make adjustments as needed, but
> you do not get your money back(same as a normal 2 session pairs event) and
> you certainly do not get to make that decision after you did or did not
> qualify.
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> You can purchase a single session entry at the time of purchase, but you
> do not get to play in the finals, regardless if you qualified and change
> your mind.  You can buy into the consolation pairs if you want, as can
> anyone.
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:33:13 AM
> *To:* Seattle ACBL Unit Board
> *Subject:* Re: [SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board
> review ASAP
>
> Carryover noted. I had missed that on the prior events and will correct to:
> (About half the field will qualify, up to two board carry-over)
>
> The Consolation pairs is a separate single session event. I'm *not *okay
> changing the wording on that.  Open pairs participants are not required to
> play in, nor pay for, the consolation pairs if they fail to qualify. (I'm
> not sure forcing them to enter it is even an option allowed by the event
> type.)
>
> I'd like to hear opinions on Monty's suggestion re: changing the title of
> the Swiss?  I'm okay with whatever change we make to the title...I'm all
> for making as low-confusion as possible.
>
> JC
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:16 PM Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes the consolation game is stratified.
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>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 6:00 PM Raymond Miller <raysmiller at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Agree with Mike
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 5:11 PM Mike Christensen <quirk_1 at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Qualifying pairs traditionally has a 2 board carry over.
>>>>
>>>> Evidence
>>>> http://live.acbl.org/event/1710186/2801/2/recap
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>>>> Also, the director will often qualify enough pairs to get to a good
>>>> movement, which is generally more but can occasionally be slightly less
>>>> than half the field.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Suggest changing
>>>> Open Pairs Qualifier (50% of the field will qualify for the finals, no
>>>> carry-over)
>>>> to
>>>> Open Pairs Qualifier (About half the field will qualify for the finals,
>>>> two board carry-over)
>>>>
>>>> And to emphasis that the consolation pairs entry is included with the
>>>> qualification pairs buy in
>>>>
>>>> Stratified Consolation Pairs (single session)
>>>> to
>>>> Stratified Consolation Pairs (single session buy in ok)
>>>>
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>>>> *From:* Sbuboard <sbuboard-bounces+quirk_1=
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>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2019 4:55 PM
>>>> *To:* Seattle ACBL Unit Board
>>>> *Subject:* [SBU Board] Revised Harvest Sectional flyer - for board
>>>> review ASAP
>>>>
>>>> *Mike & Monty* - please check closely & let me know if you would like
>>>> any changes. *(Monty confirmed he had volunteered as Lane's
>>>> replacement for this one. Thanks, Monty!)*
>>>>
>>>> *All board members* - please help double-check for typos.
>>>>
>>>> *Note to all* - I called Sunday's event a "Stratified Matchpoint (BAM)
>>>> Swiss" instead of just calling it a BAM Swiss, to try to reduce confusion
>>>> with the less-popular BAM Teams event, per someone's (not sure who?
>>>> apologies for lack of credit) suggestion from last night. I have no idea if
>>>> the ACBL will be okay with that wording or not, but we'll see after we
>>>> submit. From some casual chat with TDs, it seems like it should be okay.
>>>>
>>>> *Please review ASAP. Barring any responses telling me otherwise, I will
>>>> submit to the ACBL tomorrow evening.*
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