[SBU Board] Fwd: Attendance on Sunday

[JC Chupack]

I admit that I don't understand how anyone able-bodied could say they had
trouble finding/getting lunch for Vasa Park.  (I did understand that
concern for Forest Ridge, just because the neighborhood there is so slow to
go in/out.) There are restaurants, including counter service, fast food,
and sit-down, within 5-7 minutes drive (under 2 miles) of Vasa Park.
Restaurants include Subway, Teriyaki, Outback, Jack in the Box, McDonald's,
Dairy Queen, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Bombay House (Indian), and Southgate
Garden (Korean).  There's a few more spots that I haven't seen personally,
too. And the roads to/from are fast and easy to drive.

The comments about mealtime being short I can sort of understand, for folks
who really strongly want to be able to have a sit-down meal vs. something
counter-service or fast food. (And I can see both sides of whether having
time for a sit-down dinner is a thing that should be expected on a daylight
schedule.)

Is there something I'm missing about Vasa Park w.r.t. getting food?  I
played on Saturday & Sunday, and our group had no trouble not only having
lunch but doing a full postmortem while at lunch on both days.  Even if I
were someone that needed extra time to get in/out of my car, you could get
a meal equivalent or better than what we'd be able to provide in the
allotted time.
JC


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On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:37 AM, Ann Romeo <annromeo at gmail.com> wrote:

> man, see what happens when I type on my phone....
> I had dinner with Jeff the other night, and he made the observation that a
> meal should probably be served at Vasa specifically.  Something to keep in
> mind.
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> From: annromeo <annromeo at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 7:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Attendance on Sunday
> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
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> Hefg also made a goid point at dinner ladt night.  We really shoukd hsve
> lunch on site at that particular venue...pizza or sandwiches.  It will make
> swiss much smoother and faster.  If I don't play...doable at reasonable
> cost.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com>
> Date: 3/7/18 2:56 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Seattle ACBL Unit Board <sbuboard at mailman.celestial.com>
> Subject: Re: [SBU Board] Attendance on Sunday
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> FWIW, I did think of another hypothesis for why we saw the biggest
> drop-off for the Swiss.  What if people honestly gave Vasa Park another try
> because we noted it was remodeled, so they came out on Friday and/or
> Saturday, saw that it was still flawed in whatever way they particularly
> hate, and so blew off Saturday and/or Sunday, leading to a decline over the
> weekend as more folks decided it still wasn't meeting their expectations?
>
> That is something that we'll get from the survey, though.  I have no doubt
> the vocal anti-Vasa folks will let us know if they were disappointed with
> what they saw. :)
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:51 PM, JC Chupack <jc.chupack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, we did discuss that specifically on Monday night.  The most
>> compelling reason to not do pairs & teams on that day is that whenever you
>> have a pairs event with a team event and don't have separate rooms, the
>> pairs event suffers noisiness when the teams are getting assignments and
>> re-locating.  Running pairs along with the teams happens a lot at NABCs and
>> Regionals because they typically have the space to provide separation.
>>
>> I'd also note that the event format itself didn't change year-over-year
>> (YoY), nor was there any indication that it changed YoY. So, even though we
>> all have heard feedback about reasons folks don't go to Swiss, I'd have
>> trouble believing that the YoY drop-off is due to Swiss itself.  It could
>> be a factor, though, if the decision tree when some other big factor is at
>> play (like weather or location), means that folks who aren't fond of our
>> Swiss teams events anyways stay home. (i.e., "I am willing to deal with
>> [Vasa Park, snow, etc.] for pairs because I like pairs games, but I'm not
>> willing to deal with it for Swiss because I don't like that format.")
>>
>> I'll do my best to address this somehow in the survey, but it can be very
>> tough to tease out when a number of factors could be at play.
>>
>> JC
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>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 5:18 PM, LARRY HOLDREN <larryholdren at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> When I got home Monday night, M asked about the meeting.  I told her
>>> that one of our concerns was the poor turn out Sunday at Vasa Park.  Her
>>> reaction was something like “no wonder, all you had was Swiss teams.”
>>>
>>> Maybe there is a point there.  Perhaps one or two limited pairs games
>>> and an open Swiss???
>>>
>>> Could a question on this subject be added to the planned survey?
>>>
>>> Larry
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