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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Yeah, I'm on the fence on the culpability of China for the virus. However I'm not a fan of inflammatory accusations we can't back up.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We have enough provable things we can say about what China is doing to us and the rest of the world. Why blame them for releasing a virus that killed their peeps too when we don't have evidence to back it up (or at least we choose a method that seems to lack any proof)? It breaks our credibility. It removes any poise our leaders may attempt to maintain... so that our words and actions have substance with our allies as we take real actions. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Yeah, I'm not a fan of Fauci. I also know the problems with over-D'ing. I take D supplement and have heard the lectures numerous times.</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Thursday, September 24, 2020 4:41:16 PM EDT Leon Goldstein via Linux-users wrote:<br /></p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:40px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Dr. Fauci, the Ayatollah of Wuhan* virus, told a reporter that he takes a vitamin d supplement of 6000 IU every day. That is ten times the daily recommended dose. Worse than vitamin D deficiency is vitamin D overdose. It causes all sorts of problems. So the nation's leading expert is oblivious to some basic medicine knowledge. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:40px; margin-right:40px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">* I don't play the "PC" game. Seems that our pols are more worried about offending China than serving us.<br /> </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">The misinformation is frustrating, to say the least. We've all had to struggle with what to do in this age of "fractured truth." </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Great to hear from you guys tho. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">COVID19 has been ... inconvenient, but not too bad for me. More upsetting is just how political we've allowed it to become. I don't trust our scientists blindly, and we've clearly screwed a *few* pooches over this, but the politicization of COVID19 has been baffling. Everyone hates everyone who thinks different than them, and with Facebook they must tell everyone they've ever communicated with... all the time... without thinking. (yes, overgeneralization, I know some reasonable people too) </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Some areas people are dying more than others. Some friends have much closer ties to people who have suffered greatly, and some friends haven't known anyone. I live in a red-necky area, where it's not manly to wear a mask, so people aren't. "Hell, it's downright unAmerican to wear a mask!" </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I don't care where you fall. I'd like for people to just stop being assholes, and maybe discuss why they think the way they do. We're all stuck with conflicting data from different sources. So let's talk respectfully about why we place trust in the data from one source more than another, why we, upon preponderance of the evidence we are considering, think the way we do. And allow others to do the same, please? </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And please don't quote Rush Limbaugh as a credible source. If he said it, find out why, find *his* source. Let's drive the facts down as close to the raw data (with appropriate context) as we can, so we can evaluate things together, in a somewhat normalized fashion. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Still Kubuntu and Ubuntu, Servers and Desktops, and embeddedy things deployed on customer's locations. Loving my latest DELL, XPS 15 7590. Still hacking away at embedded systems. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Take care all, </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:03:26 PM EDT James McDonald via Linux-users wrote:<br /> </p>
<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Two statisticians went duck hunting. One shot a metre high the other shot a metre low. And they both exclaimed “bullseye” </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">From: Terence <a href="mailto:terence.john@gmail.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;"><terence.john@gmail.com></span></a> <br /> Sent: Monday, 21 September 2020 9:09 PM<br /> To: Linux Users (formerly Caldera) discussion <a href="mailto:linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;"><linux-users@linux-sxs.org></span></a><br /> Cc: Lonni J Friedman <a href="mailto:netllama@gmail.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;"><netllama@gmail.com></span></a>; James McDonald <a href="mailto:james@toggen.com.au"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;"><james@toggen.com.au></span></a><br /> Subject: Re: Best Lock Down Ever </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Here in the south-west UK Covid cases are very few, and although there are some inconveniences for me , they are minor compared to other areas. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And being on my own since my wife dies (2001) and my children went off to university the "anti-social isolating" bit has not really affected me. There are some stupid figures being bandied about, and I mean stupid. A friend's son crashed his bike and died in hospital from his injuries, but as he tested positive on arrival for carrying Covid his death is counted as a Covid death. All deaths within a twenty-eight day period after testing positive, whether or not showing any symptoms, are also counted. Heart attacks, strokes, car accidents, falling down stairs, all are Covid deaths... </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain.... </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">But we have the internet to keep us all in touch. Good to hear from you chaps, stay well. </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 04:06, James McDonald via Linux-users <<a href="mailto:linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">linux-users@linux-sxs.org</span></a>> wrote: </p>
<p style=" margin-top:12px; margin-bottom:12px; margin-left:80px; margin-right:80px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">That was a well written article. Talk about a multi-variant problem.<br /> <br /> It also seems the virus likes cool weather. Our northern (warmer) states have a lot less restrictions than we do in Victoria.<br /> <br /> Stay safe all.<br /> <br /> -----Original Message-----<br /> From: Lonni J Friedman <<a href="mailto:netllama@gmail.com"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">netllama@gmail.com</span></a>> <br /> Sent: Monday, 21 September 2020 11:13 AM<br /> To: Linux Users (formerly Caldera) discussion <<a href="mailto:linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">linux-users@linux-sxs.org</span></a>><br /> Cc: James McDonald <<a href="mailto:james@toggen.com.au"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">james@toggen.com.au</span></a>><br /> Subject: Re: Best Lock Down Ever<br /> <br /> America is an unmitigated disaster. See <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/pandemic-intuition-nightmare-spiral-winter/616204/"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/pandemic-intuition-nightmare-spiral-winter/616204/</span></a><br /> for an excellent summary.<br /> <br /> I wish we had nationwide "stage 4" lock down. Its what we need, and anyone who disagrees is ignoring science in favor of politics.<br /> <br /> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 6:11 PM James McDonald via Linux-users <<a href="mailto:linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">linux-users@linux-sxs.org</span></a>> wrote:<br /> ><br /> > Hi Personages of the Linux SxS list,<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > Here in Melbourne we are in “stage 4” lock down. Meaning only one person being allowed to go out for essentials and at the moment 2 hours of socially distanced exercise per day.<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > How is everyone faring?<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > I had one friend catch COVID-19 on a cruise liner and it almost killed him. Family in other parts of the world (London) have lost close friends.<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > Others say it’s all a government conspiracy to curtail our freedoms & control us. What do you think?<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > I have purchased and built a new computer and dual screen set-up for what I call my COVID cave. Running Fedora 32 and VMWare Workstation Pro for running M$ guests.<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > I hope this email finds you all well. Stay safe<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > My semi-annual list post is now complete.<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > James McDonald<br /> ><br /> > Melbourne Australia<br /> ><br /> ><br /> ><br /> > _______________________________________________<br /> > Linux-users mailing list<br /> > <a href="mailto:Linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">Linux-users@linux-sxs.org</span></a><br /> > <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-users"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-users</span></a><br /> _______________________________________________<br /> Linux-users mailing list<br /> <a href="mailto:Linux-users@linux-sxs.org"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">Linux-users@linux-sxs.org</span></a><br /> <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-users"><span style=" text-decoration: underline; color:#2980b9;">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-users</span></a> </p>
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