Greetings from not-so-afar

Leon Goldstein metapsych at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 26 09:00:42 PST 2013


Lonni J Friedman wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Leon Goldstein <metapsych at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Matthew Carpenter wrote:
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>>>Wow,
>>>
>>>I totally forgot that I had messages automatically filed into the list folder
>>>for this group.
>>>How the heck is everyone?
>>>Brought back a lot of good memories to find this folder and 422 unread
>>>messages.
>>>
>>>Me, I'm still running mostly Kubuntu boxen, and having to deal with CentOS and
>>>Windows 7/Windows8/Server* at work.
>>>
>>>Hope you are all healthy, well-employed, and well.
>>>Matt
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>Still here.  I'm dabbling with some more current releases, e.g. SuSE,
>>but still using 10+ year-old Libranet 3.
>>I'm still hovering over making the switch to a Mac.  I'd like to hear
>>about dual booting a Mac with Linux.
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>Unless you've already used OSX often, and like it, I'd strongly
>discourage that transition.  My new employer gives (forces?) a Macbook
>on all new employees, so I found myself having to use OSX as a primary
>OS for the first time ever.  Its been a rather painful transition.
>I'd say my biggest gripes are the lack of sloppy-focus for the mouse
>(focus follows mouse), and the obscene instability of the OS.  Without
>exaggeration, I'm experiencing kernel panics at least once/week.  I've
>informally polled my coworkers, and they experience the same
>instability.  We're not doing anything crazy, just (mostly) normal
>desktop usage scenarios (web browser, multi-tabbed terminals connected
>to other systems).  I don't get how anyone tolerates this crap.  Its
>horrible.  Beyond that, the performance is truly terrible compared to
>Linux.  If I run a few 'brew' package builds, the interactivity takes
>a nose dive.  The mouse literally stutters its way across the desktop
>(and this is with the SSD disk and 8GB RAM).  At home, I've got an
>assortment of macbooks from 2010 all the way up to the most recent
>2013 retina model, all with Fedora on them, and they are rock solid,
>stable & performant.  So its definitely the OS that is at fault for
>the instability and performance problems.
>
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>So if you like OSX then i guess go for it. But if you haven't used it
>much, I'd recommend that you think long & hard before making the
>transition.  I can't help much about dual boot.  All of my home Macs
>are single OS (Fedora), and my work Mac is OSX only.
>
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Hi Lonni:  my Mac experience is limited to an ancient Mac laptop - with 
G4 proc - I bought used quite a while ago.
It has the second or third - not sure which - OSX release on it, and I 
have Word Perfect that runs under classic mode.

I did not like the idea of a Mac with an Intel proc;  the whole 
advantage IMHO of old Mac's was RISC.
Thanks for the tip about Fedora.  I may hunt for a used Macintel and 
just run Fedora on it.

-- 
Leon A. Goldstein

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