Quick poll

[C M Reinehr]

On Sun 05 October 2008 09:37, David A. Bandel wrote:
> Folks,
>
> A couple of quick questions:
>
> 1.  How many of you run servers (vice desktops)?

Yes

> 2.  How many servers? (1, 2-10, more than 10)?

2-10 (three)

> 3.  How many are headless?

All three are connected to a KVM switch & a single display & keboard--no 
mouse.

> 4.  How many run X (headless or not)?

None (0) run X.

> 5.  How did you install them? (Graphical install/text install, local
> install/network install/internet install)
> I broke network install into network and internet to allow for local
> network vice internet where the repositories are all remote -- local
> install is from CD/DVD or the same machine for a virtual server).

Debian 4.0 network/text install from a net-install mini-CD.

> 6.  Did you d/l all the CDs/DVD.  If so, what percentage of programs
> did you install?

Downloaded the Debian network-install iso to a mini-R/W CD.

> What I'm looking at here is how odd am I?

Pretty odd! (Just kidding. ;-)

I, pretty much, agree with your entire point of view, having worked my up from 
the hardware level, through Unix, DOS & Linux. The problem, I fear, is that 
so many colleges start their courses with Windows & Visual Basic which 
engenders absolutely no understanding of the underlying hardware or 
processes. (My first programming experience, on the other hand, was a 
simplified form of assembler!)

Cheers!

cmr
> Having run Debian for so
> long (even before I started w/ Caldera), I might be spoiled.  My
> recent foray into FC has me wondering if any of the developers there
> have any gray matter or incredible tunnel vision -- or again, is it
> that everyone but me has 100Mb Internet, unlimited DVDs to burn and
> throw away (very carbon), and of course all systems (even headless
> servers) with Terabytes of RAM and running X (because who cares with
> that much RAM)?
>
> All my installs are text mode (FC is doing away with text mode
> installs, FC 10 Beta's text mode is so borken you have to know the
> secrets to get past the disk partitioning, and I expect no text mode
> in FC 11).  All my installs are PXE/TFTPBOOT installs of a network
> (internet) load -- mostly to limit bandwidth usage and start with a
> 100% up-to-date install.
>
> I'm afraid I fail to see the sense behind installing servers with X.
> I also see little sense in burning a DVD just to throw it away after 1
> install and d/l a newer one 2 weeks later for another install.
>
> Perhaps there are just too many who've started their training on M$
> and can't deal with non-graphical, non-local installs.
>
> I'm trying to wrap my head around this thinking process but it's not
> making sense.  Perhaps if a few of you would answer the poll above, I
> could understand better where the rest of the admins are.
>
> If you don't want to answer in public, pls send to me directly at:
> david.bandel at gmail.com.
>
> Thanx,
>
> David A. Bandel

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