Quick poll

[David A. Bandel]

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Lonni J Friedman <netllama at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:37 AM, David A. Bandel <david.bandel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> A couple of quick questions:
>>
>> 1.  How many of you run servers (vice desktops)?
>
> I run both, although you didn't define what constitutes a server other
> than !desktop.

On purpose.  The line is very much blurred in some instances.

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>> 3.  How many are headless?
>
> If by headless you mean a system without any connected display device,
> then 0.  I've got a KVM attached to all of my systems in the unlikely
> event that I need a quick local console (and don't want to drag a
> crash cart over from who knows where).

I have console redirected to the serial port and just connect up my
laptop and run kermit.

[snip]

>
> The biggest fact that you seem to be overlooking here is that Fedora
> is not targetted at the server, non-desktop use space at all.  You are
> not even remotely their target audience, and therefore your usage
> requirements are not even on their radar for the most part.  That
> isn't to say that your problems aren't valid (although requiring LILO
> seems absolutely bizarre to me, as no major distro supports LILO any
> more).

Please define the term "major distro".  You must be excluding Debian.
It remains that LILO can do things I need that GRUB simply cannot do.

>
>>
>> All my installs are text mode (FC is doing away with text mode
>> installs, FC 10 Beta's text mode is so borken you have to know the
>> secrets to get past the disk partitioning, and I expect no text mode
>> in FC 11).
>
> Can you provide a URL that documents this?  From everything that I'm
> reading, the Fedora developers are still fixing text mode installation
> bugs as recently as a week ago.  Seems odd that they'd be spending
> their time fixing bugs in something that was going to be unsupported.

What I can provide I will send you via private e-mail and I trust to
your discretion (I don't have permission to retrans this).

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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