Quick poll

[Vu Pham]

David A. Bandel wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> A couple of quick questions:

> 
> 2.  How many servers? (1, 2-10, more than 10)?

~ 10

> 
> 3.  How many are headless?
0. All of them have KVM.
> 
> 4.  How many run X (headless or not)?
My kickstart config includes X but not all of them need X.

> 
> 5.  How did you install them? (Graphical install/text install, local
> install/network install/internet install)
> I broke network install into network and internet to allow for local
> network vice internet where the repositories are all remote -- local
> install is from CD/DVD or the same machine for a virtual server).

kickstart with network.

> 6.  Did you d/l all the CDs/DVD.  If so, what percentage of programs
> did you install?

For the production servers which use RHEL, I use their DVD. For other 
servers using different distros ( FC, Ubuntu ) I downloaded their DVDs.

> 
> What I'm looking at here is how odd am I?  Having run Debian for so
> long (even before I started w/ Caldera), I might be spoiled.  My
> recent foray into FC has me wondering if any of the developers there
> have any gray matter or incredible tunnel vision -- or again, is it
> that everyone but me has 100Mb Internet, unlimited DVDs to burn and
> throw away (very carbon), and of course all systems (even headless
> servers) with Terabytes of RAM and running X (because who cares with
> that much RAM)?

For the production servers, no matter what packages are installed, I 
think all admins will stop all the unused services, not only to save 
memory but also to have less unecessary security holes, if any.

> All my installs are text mode (FC is doing away with text mode
> installs, FC 10 Beta's text mode is so borken you have to know the
> secrets to get past the disk partitioning, and I expect no text mode
> in FC 11).  All my installs are PXE/TFTPBOOT installs of a network
> (internet) load -- mostly to limit bandwidth usage and start with a
> 100% up-to-date install.
> 
> I'm afraid I fail to see the sense behind installing servers with X.
> I also see little sense in burning a DVD just to throw it away after 1
> install and d/l a newer one 2 weeks later for another install.
> 
> Perhaps there are just too many who've started their training on M$
> and can't deal with non-graphical, non-local installs.
My first system is an Apple with big green characters in 40x25 text 
mode. My first real apps were using Assembly languages on 6805, 8085 and 
8088 CPUs. Not many GUI at that moments.

Not as many as Unix/Linux admins, but I know some Windows admins do know 
their jobs very well using the command lines in the ugly dos command 
prompt windo to fix their problems.

Vu