Sidux stability?

[Collins Richey]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Lonni J Friedman <netllama at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Michael Hipp <Michael at hipp.com> wrote:
>  > Collins Richey wrote:
>  >  > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Kurt Wall <kwall at kurtwerks.com> wrote:
>  >  >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 05:21:05PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  [mondo snippage]
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  > One final comment, nothing is quite so unstable as a Ubuntu
>  >  >>  > development release. They don't test squat before releasing it.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  This would be why it's called a "development release," yes?
>  >  >>
>  >  >
>  >  > Sure, but the Ubuntu concept of development is to dump anything they
>  >  > find into the repositories, even if it is rife with unmet
>  >  > dependancies, ie no one has ever even bothered to istall the crap.
>  >
>  >  Um. I doubt this statement would stand up to an objective test of the facts.
>
>  I find it hilarious how Collins' tune has changed now that he's found
>  a new distro of the month.

I find it hilarious that you didn't read some of my earlier
experiences with Ubuntu which is all in all a good distro but there is
no likelihood it will put the sliced bread bakers out of business.

> First it was Caldera long ago, then he
>  discovered Gentoo (and couldn't stop singing its praises, and getting
>  horribly offended if not everyone agreed),

Not really offended. Gentoo is still a good distro.

> then it was Ubuntu was the
>  best thing since sliced bread, and now its Sidux. Just wait a few
>  months and I'm sure that Collins will despise Sidux, and find some new
>  shiny object to capture his heart & attention.
>

I'm sorry you're so far off the track, Lonni. There are a few of us
over the years who have not swallowed the RH === Linux myth. Unless
the Sidux developers fold, I'll be in that camp for a long time.
There's certainly nothing wrong with flavor of the month, and I've
tried quite a few of them over the past year. Most of them have some
strong points, but none have held my interest. In any case, I put up
SIdux on my desktop in October and on my laptop in December, so that's
hardly flavor of the month.

For others in the thread, I have encountered system-breaking flaws
and/or packages that could not possibly have ever been tested (they
can't be installed) in every Ubuntu development release. That's what I
call dumping untested stuff into the repositories. I haven't kept an
accurate record of these, but some of the failures were really
spectacular. Nevertheless, I can still recommend Ubuntu releases (not
development) for inexperienced users, and I still work with the local
Ubuntu team from time to time.

Gentoo and Sidux have one primary benefit that you won't find in most
other distros: continuous upgrade rather than starting over with each
release. That does create a problem when installing from scratch late
after an intermediate release. There may be as many as 500-600
packages to upgrade. I would recommend anyone wishing to install Sidux
to do so after an intermediate release - it's less painful.

Sidux has another drawback for most of you - there is no companion
server release. Not too many of us are interested in leading/bleeding
edge stuff for a server. That's why Debian stable and the various
enterprise releases exist.

The originator of this thread asked for information about Sidux, and
I've provided some of the plusses and minuses, but I'm not in the
Sidux sales business. You try it. If you like it, keep it.

-- 
Collins Richey
     If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries
     of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.