Ubuntu 8.10 - Ball dropped

Lonni J Friedman netllama at gmail.com
Tue Dec 2 07:04:52 PST 2008


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Lonni J Friedman <netllama at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Also, kickstart support is 100% broken.  Quality has never been job 1
>> for Ubuntu.  This is just more of the same downward slide.  Mark
>> Shuttlesworth is smoking some good stuff if he thinks that a distro
>> with completely broken kickstart support is ready for any enterprise
>> environment.
>>
>
> True enough. Since I don't need to kickstart anything at home -
> install once, update forever - I'm pretty well insulated from that.
>
> At work is another story. Kickstart functionality was (effectively but
> not technically) broken on RHEL5. ldap functionality was not working

How is kickstart "effective but not technically broken on RHEL5"?  I'd
love to know so that I can tell all my RHEL5 kickstart environments
that they shouldn't be working when they kickstart just fine every day
(and I do mean every day).

> properly until well after 5.2, and I had difficulty getting Anaconda

How is "ldap functionality not working" in RHEL5?  I'd love to know so
that I can make sure to break it on all of my RHEL5 systems which rely
exclusively on LDAP for their authentication.


> to work at all on 5.1. The split of the workstation product into two
> streams (Client and Workstation) was counter productive for my
> company's needs. Also I had some difficulty with NFS vs HTTP access to
> the repositories during kickstart. And, given the ldap problem, I'm
> not really impressed with the quality control (ie testing) process
> before point releases. ldap support was working at 5.0 and 5.1, but
> badly borken in 5.2

Did you file bugs with Redhat over these issues?  All of my RHEL5
kickstart installs use NFS with zero issues.

>
> I've got it mostly sorted now, but I had to move a lot of stuff out of
> post and into a first_boot setup, mostly to get around the ldap
> problem. I haven't tried 5.3 yet.

Perhaps that's cause 5.3 is released next year?
>
> Just goes to prove, there is no perfect distro, and just when you have
> a fine-tuned, repeatable process, the rules of the game change, and
> it's startover time.

That defines Ubuntu perfectly.  I've been using the same RHEL5
kickstart file since the 5.0 release and have never had a single
problem.

>
> Thank goodness I'm well out of the reinstall game on my home system.

Until you find yet another religion.
*cough*GENTOO*cough*UBUNTU*cough*SIDUX*cough



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