Debian testing install

[Mike Reinehr]

David,

On Friday 24 November 2006 14:23, David Bandel wrote:
> On 11/24/06, Mike Reinehr <cmr at amsent.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 24 November 2006 12:45, ded wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > But, when I got
> > > to the desktop there was this irritating orangish looking icon
> > > telling me that there were updates?
> > > <snip>
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Which desktop did you install and what application gave you the icon?
> > I've done several Etch installs over the past couple of months without
> > seeing that. I'm wondering if it's something new within the last month,
> > or if you just installed an app that I haven't.
> >
> > Like you, I think they've done a great job with the new installer but
> > there is one feature that I don't care for and don't use--installing the
> > desktop environment task. First, it installs Gnome by default whereas I
> > prefer KDE and second, it installs everything up to and including the
> > kitchen sink. I've learned to do a minimal install & then install the KDE
> > apps seperately. I suspect that you selected the desktop environment and
> > go a lot of Gnome applications that I never see.
> >
> > Cheers!
>
> Well, I'm so Debian old school (I ran Debian before I ran Caldera), I
> use dselect.  I also never use the tasksel interface, I skip it.
>
> I haven't yet seen what you're talking about, but I don't think I
> would even in graphical mode, since I use wdm and openbox.  If you use
> KDE or Gnome (shudder for both), expect a Windoze look-alike,
> feel-alike.  OTOH, if you use openbox, blackbox, fluxbox, etc., or
> even XFCE, I doubt you'll see the dumbed down part so much.
>
> Here and I'm preparing classes to show folks how to get the most out
> of ip (vice ifconfig and route which to me are dumbed down admin
> tools).
>
> Anyway.  I think they're doing the right thing(TM) for the Windoze
> crowd.  They need it.  You don't, but don't let that stop you.  Try
> twm or just a CLI (don't install X -- on servers, I don't).
>
> After all, Linux is all about choice.
>
> Ciao,
>
> David A. Bandel

I'm sure you're right about the other, lighter weight desktops. I really 
should start experimenting with them. The main reason I stay with KDE is that 
I have an office full of sales people, who need something simple & familiar, 
and it's easier for me to support them if I use the same thing.

As far as configuration goes, ip for example, I'm pretty much command line 
oriented--I don't install X on my servers. :-)

As teenagers, to their great regret, find out when they (finally) leave home, 
having a choice can be painful but rewarding! :-)

Cheers!

cmr
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