On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 18:40 -0500, David Bandel wrote: > On 11/12/06, Man-wai CHANG <mwchang at i-cable.com> wrote: > > > > the clock? > > ?? > > First thing is understanding that security is a process, a constantly > changing process (and that process doesn't come with a PID). Confucius said that? <g> Ric