time setting in debian

[David Bandel]

On 2/23/06, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/06, Dallam Wych <dallam.wyche at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 10:20:51PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:
> > > Perhaps someone could tell me a little more about dist-upgrade...
> >
> > You would use dist-upgrade to upgrade your system from stable to
> > testing, or from testing to unstable.
>
> That's what I thought, but I'm not upgrading my system from one level
> to another, so it's a mystery why this helped. I'm running Kubuntu
> Dapper which is sort of the same as Debian testing, and thus I expect
> to encounter a few problems.


No, that's not right.  upgrade will upgrade packages that need no
interaction and whose upgrade is benign.  This can be done without
fear automagically.

dist-upgrade upgrades _all_ packages that can be upgraded, including
those that require a response to questions and/or might cause problems
(like a glibc upgrade that requires you to stop and restart services,
etc.).  Kernel upgrades are usually dist-upgrade packages.

>
> >
> > > since I've never done anything but 1) install 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get
> > > upgrade then repeat 2) and 3) ad infinitum.
> >
> > Can I ask just for curiosities sake why you prefer apt-get to aptitude
> > for installing packages?
> >
>
> I presume that aptitude is gui and gnome based? Gnome is not my
> favorite desktop. Most of my life I've run xfce or IceWM, and right
> now I'm running KDE just to see what the other half is like.

aptitude is the worst package manager I've ever seen and I still can't
figure it out.  Personally, I use dselect (but then, I've used it for
so many years it's second nature) or use dpkg directly.

>
> Also, I've heard that it's a really bad idea to mix aptitude and
> apt-get, and the two apt-get commands mentioned above are pretty damn
> simple, expecially when all I have to do is up arrow in the Konsole
> window!

Since they all (dselect, aptitude, apt-get) are front ends for dpkg
(which is a bit hateful, but a necessity at times) which accesses the
same /var/lib/dpkg files, the above statement about not "mixing" the
two has me scratching my head.  If you use them simultaneously, only
one will be able to do anything as the other will be locked read-only.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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