Ubuntu = The Best Distro In The World -- For No One!

[Matthew Carpenter]

On Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:10, Collins Richey wrote:
> On 8/15/06, Net Llama! <netllama at linux-sxs.org> wrote:
> > He fails to realize that you can't buy a community.
>
> No one for the most part (other than you and a few others) believes
> that he is "buying a community." He's bankrolling the project, but no
> one is "buying" the community of users gathered around this product.
> Those who like it sing its praises, and those who don't drop off,
> pretty much like any other distro, but the ratio of likes to dislikes
> is heavily weighted in favor of Ubuntu, and the number of adopters
> continues to increase. Obviously these folks have only the loosest of
> connections with reality <grin>

There is indeed quite an active community.  The wiki always has very recent 
information, each time I search on it for something new.  Yes, I have also 
experienced delays in response time.  I figure they are a victim of their own 
success.  I'm not a paying customer, and would demand more if I were.  As it 
is, I am doing my part to submit bugs and don't figure it's my job to piss 
and moan that it takes a month or so to get an initial response to my bugs.  
Once it's assigned, the communication has flowed in a timely fashion.  
Hopefully, as they move into "5-year support" deployments, things will quiet 
down or they will get more principle support folk.  That is likely the key 
for production server environments.

> > > 2. He wants to prove that a Debian-based system can fit into a  Yes, 
> > > commercial, "enterprise" server environment. A tough nut to crack,
> > > since commercial enterprises want to buy someone to kick around when
> > > they haven't got the smarts to make it work. You don't have to
> > > convince me that a Debian-based system would be plenty reliable, but
> > > the commercial goons won't touch it until they do have someone to kick
> > > around. That leads to number three.
> >
> > HP just announced that they're going to support/ship Debian on their
> > servers.  That says something about Ubuntu, although likely not what you
> > want to hear.
>
> I'm fine with that announcement. There are lots of Debian servers. The
> only thing it says about Ubuntu is that there isn't yet a critical
> mass of Ubuntu servers to attract an operation the size of HP. Ubuntu
> has done well in the desktop arena, but as a server, well it's too new
> and unproven. I would make the same decision myself.

Awesome for Debian.  Ian, despite accusations of his own ego, has lead a great 
rabble of brains and Debian is a great, powerful distro.  The nice thing 
abour Kubuntu is that my knowledge transfers to Debian.  I understand the 
Debian way of doing things because Ubuntu is so similar.  But rather than 
starting from scratch, with Debian is close to, and rather than forging my 
way into the depths of the elite support with Debian, I can start with a very 
powerful and complete desktop/server (and bootable distro CD) and the 
community is very active and helpful, even to little ol' me... and chances 
are good that nobody has to respond to me because a quick google search on 
the forums often finds the answer I was looking for.

I enjoy my Kubuntu, and enjoy Debian (where necessary).  Anything to avoid 
OpenSolaris or AIX. :)  I'll support RH/FC or SLES, whatever makes sense.  
They all seem to be progressing well.  I have come to prefer Debian-based 
distros because their packaging distribution channel is better vetted and 
standardized.  I have not actually had to compile anything in a very long 
time.  That makes a huge difference to the masses.
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