anyone have/tried Mandriva 2005?

[Net Llama!]

On 05/14/2005 09:51 AM, David A. Bandel wrote:
> Regurgitating the prose of Net Llama! Net Llama! <netllama at gmail.com> on
> Sat, 14 May 2005 07:42:58 -0700:
> 
> |On 05/14/2005 04:35 AM, David Bandel wrote:
> |> On 5/13/05, Net Llama! <netllama at gmail.com> wrote:
> |>> must be nice.  why can't everyone just wise up and use RH/FC to make
> |my >> life easier?  ;)
> |> 
> |> Because Debian derivatives are so much easier to maintain (no RPM
> |> dependency hell), never require reinstalls on "upgrades" (which are
> |> continuous anyway), and with over 18,000 packages, building from
> |> source is rare.  And the Debian packages just work together and
> |rarely > have bugs (they're rather anal about that).
> |> 
> |> The above has been the norm for many years.
> |
> |Funny, i've never run into any RPM dependency hell, EVER, even back in 
> |the Caldera days.  I'd consider building from source to a positive, not
> |
> |a negative, and RH/Fedora has never required reinstalling to upgrade. 
> |Overall, your list sounds like a lot of FUD.
> 
> If you haven't experienced RPM dependency hell, you must be a newcomer
> (_very_ recent).

Right, i just entered the world of Linux and i have no clue what i'm 
talking about.

> 
> I don't have time to sit around building from source on 60 systems. 
> Building from source is something I enjoyed years ago when I only had to
> worry about a handful of systems.  I just don't have that kind of time
> to waste.
> 
> And RH/Caldera/etc., _all_ used to require a complete reinstall.  Debian

No they didn't.  RH has included upgrade functionality since at least 
the 5.x days, and Caldera had it at least since 2.2.

> even managed to upgrade through the a.out -> elf changeover and the
> libc5 -> glibc6 changeover.  I don't remember a single other distro that
> even attempted it.  I've run Slackware (still do), Debian, RH, Caldera,
> and a myriad others including a distro I created using Linux From
> Scratch as a base (a CD distro to boot my wireless systems).  My time
> now, though, is _way_ too valuable to waste.  I unfortunately have very
> little time to play.  Debian is the easiest to maintain, so that's what
> I use.  The rest were _way_ too hard in comparison.
> 
> Now, it's possible some of the above information is dated.  But when I

Its got to be very very dated, at least 7+ years ago.

> moved back to Debian from Caldera, the above definitely wasn't FUD.  But
> I know tha whatever you use the obviously the best (for you, but most
> definitely not for most others who don't have as much free time on their
> hands).

David, you really ought to spend some of your precious time verifying 
that what you're claiming has validity.  Complaining about the state of 
RPM based distros from over 7 years ago is ridiculous.  Then again, that 
is Debian's release cycle.  :P


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