CMS recommendations?

[Alma J Wetzker]

Michael Hipp wrote:
> Bill Campbell wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005, Michael Hipp wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend any CMSes (content management systems) I should 
>>> evaluate?
>>>
>>> I'll be using it for my own stuff as well as providing it to clients 
>>> as a way to keep them off of FrontPage (yech!).
>>>
>>> Needs to run with Linux and Apache. I'd prefer it was based on 
>>> PostgreSQL and Python but I'll probably end up with MySQL and PHP or 
>>> Perl. (Not that such is some great hardship.)
>>
>>
>>
>> We've been using Zope and Plone for about a year now, and have
>> been very happy with it.  It's python based, and works with
>> postgresql, mysql, or any other database supported by python.
> 
> 
> Thanks. I keep hearing stuff like "Zope/Plone is not really a CMS, it's 
> a platform for building a CMS". Could you offer any insight into that?
> 
> No-one is saying such to criticize Z/P, but they seem to be saying that 
> it takes a fair bit of work before you can get down to the business of 
> building your site.

I hear Good Things (tm) about Zope/Plone.  They are not a CMS any more 
than 'C' and BASIC are applications.  You can _MAKE_ a CMS _USING_ Z/P, 
just like you can make an application using 'C' or BASIC.  If that is 
the level you are wanting to work at, you could do far worse than Z/P.

I would be greatly surprised if there were not some templates and sample 
code to get you started and make the starting ramp a bit easier.

I still can't get past the overloading of the CMS TLA, to me it means 
Customer Management System, a method for wresting ownership of the 
customer (i.e. $$$$) from the sales rep.  Much emotion tied up in those 
little letters.

     -- Alma