Fwd: anybody have experience with this outfit?

Matthew Carpenter matt
Sun Jan 23 23:57:05 PST 2005


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Since I do respect your knowledge of wireless technologies, what are
your thoughts on WiMax?  Does 802.16 indeed have any tangible benefits
over 802.11?  What about implementational differences?  Anyone have
anything promising?  The rags say WiMax is supposed to service people up
to 10 miles... but that's not really that informational, since the
record length for 802.11 is 86miles, and 30miles is already achievable
with a yagi.  Does the .16 have increased power so this 10 miles can be
using an omni?  The spectrum is higher so wouldn't it be more likely to
attenuate with weather (perhaps insignificantly)?

Thanks.

David Bandel wrote:
| ---------- Forwarded message ----------
| From: David Bandel <david.bandel at gmail.com>
| Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:54:23 -0500
| Subject: Re: anybody have experience with this outfit?
| To: Matthew Carpenter <matt at eisgr.com>
|
|
| On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:57:13 -0500, Matthew Carpenter <matt at eisgr.com>
wrote:
|
| Aside from obvious cost concerns, I'd buy into the WiFi/WiMax solution.
| Make friends with someone with broadband and work out an arrangement
| with them for a wireless bridge.  The wireless part could be handled by
| a Linux box so long as the wireless card could handle and antenna, or
| you can use some inexpensive commercial equipment.  David's suggestions
| are better if you have the money, but then there we are.
|
| You're still subject to weather, but that would be true of satellite as
| well (and perhaps moreso).
|
|
|> Would you mind expounding on this?  Neither 2.4GHz nor 5.8GHz WiFi are
|> subject to weather conditions.  Satellite, yes, but that's a frequency
|> range that's attentuated by water.
|
|> The _only_ time you have weather-related problems with outdoor
|> wireless is if the installer didn't properly waterproof the
|> connections (I use 3M #23 high voltage rubber electrical tape, not the
|> garden variety electrical tape).
|
|
| David Bandel wrote:
| | On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:45:39 -0500, dep <dep at linuxandmain.com> wrote:
| |
| |>http://www.direcway.com
| |>
| |>i'm contemplating a move to a place where there's no cable, no dsl. this
| |>appears to be the lone alternative. almost sounds too good to be true.
| |>anybody know about these guys?
| |
| |
| | Well, I know that satellite is going to be slow and unreliable
| | (particularly in areas with heavy rains).
| |
| | What I would do:  do a line-of-site survey to see where I could see
| | (including, if I had to, from a 50' tower).  Get good signal put in
| | where I could see and buy a pair of good point-to-point radios in the
| | 5.8GHz range (something like the Wi-Lan Ultima3-ER radios).  These
| | radios can provide signal with the long range antennas up to 47 miles
| | (75 km) with good throughput (like 10Mb, same as ethernet).
| |
| | You can get good towers from Texas Towers (crankups if you don't want
| | to climb).  To do my 50' survey, I'd just hire a high-lift bucket
| | truck (here they run me $100/hr, probably a little more where you
| | are).
| |
| | Ultima3 radios will run about $2200 for each point on a
| | point-to-point, but are reliable (make sure you get good lightning
| | protection installed).
| |
| | Ciao,
| |
| | David A. Bandel
|
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| Matthew Carpenter
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|
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