Does anybody use the irc channel on irc.linux-sxs.org? Every time I log on to #linux-users, nobody's there. Well, Doug is there sometimes... Tim -- Fedora Core 2, Kernel 2.6.7-1.494.2.2, KDE 3.3.1, Xorg 6.7.0 17:00:00 up 19:44, 4 users, load average: 0.19, 0.12, 0.10 It's what you learn after you know it all that counts