<OT> -- WAY OT Re: So it goes . . .

David A. Bandel david
Mon May 17 12:01:11 PDT 2004


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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 06:58:54 -0500
"David A. Bandel" <david at pananix.com> wrote:

[snip]

A follow-up to this _very_ OT post:

> 
> 24. In dealing with Islamic apocalyptic terrorists, remember that
> their most
> cherished symbols are fewer and far more vulnerable than are the
> West's. Ultimately, no potential target can be regarded as off-limits
> when the United States is threatened with mass casualties. Worry less
> about offending
> foreign sensibilities and more about protecting Americans.
> 

I know many think that singling out Muslims is not kosher, but keep this
in mind:
by Rick Mathes 
>
> Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
> maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
session
> there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman
Catholic,
> Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief
> systems.
>
> I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The
Imam
> gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
> video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and
> answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and
> asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most
> Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war]
> against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel,
> which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in
> heaven. If that's the case, can
you
> give me the definition of an infidel?"
>
> There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation,
> he replied, "Non-believers!"
>
> I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers
> of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith
> so
they
> can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
>
> The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command
> to that
> of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie
jar.
> He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
>
> I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine
> Pope John
> Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.
> Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"
>
> The Imam was speechless.
>
> I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and
> your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask
> you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill
> me in order
> to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am
> going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
>
> You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
>
> This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known
> leader
in
> prison ministry.  Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of
> the'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way
> of dealing
> with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's
> beliefs.

Note:  I don't vouch for this applying to all Imams and Muslims, but
apparently enough of them _do_ believe this way.  Enough of them that
they need to be erradicated from the earth before they kill me (or
worse) my children.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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