DNS/BIND canonical name puzzle

Matthew Carpenter matt
Mon May 17 11:57:43 PDT 2004


Make sure you are using an A record for NS and MX records.  I am not sure looking at the diff, which you are using.  Could you send the "broken file"?

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:36:34 -0800 (PST)
"Kevin O'Gorman" <kevin at kosmanor.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Jay Nugent wrote:
> 
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >    When you 'rndc reload' BIND, do you tail the /var/log/messages file to 
> > see if it tells you about any errors in this zone file?
> > 
> >       --- Jay
> 
> I did just now, but I'm not sure what it's telling me.  I notice that
> the failure comments about CNAME, but mentions a line with an MX
> record.  I also notice that it does not say it's sending notifies,
> nor does it mention the serial number (which I have been carefully
> bumping up by 1 or 2 for each experiment).  Here's the failure:
> 
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6439]: starting BIND 9.2.1 -u named
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6439]: using 4 CPUs
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf'
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: no IPv6 interfaces found
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0, 192.168.1.149#53
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: listening on IPv4 interface eth1, 64.166.164.49#53
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: dns_master_load: /etc/kosmanor.com.hosts:38: treat.kosmanor.com: CNAME and other data
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: zone kosmanor.com/IN: loading master file /etc/kosmanor.com.hosts: CNAME and other data
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named[6442]: running
> Dec 29 15:28:39 treat named: named startup succeeded
> 
> 
> Here's the immediately following load of the good file:
> 
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6496]: starting BIND 9.2.1 -u named
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6496]: using 4 CPUs
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf'
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: no IPv6 interfaces found
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 127.0.0.1#53
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0, 192.168.1.149#53
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: listening on IPv4 interface eth1, 64.166.164.49#53
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: command channel listening on 127.0.0.1#953
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: zone kosmanor.com/IN: loaded serial 200312038
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6499]: running
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named[6500]: zone kosmanor.com/IN: sending notifies (serial 200312038)
> Dec 29 15:28:56 treat named: named startup succeeded
> [root at treat init.d]#
> 
> Finally, here's a diff of the two configurations:
> 
> 
> [root at treat etc]# diff -u20 kosmanor.com.hosts.bad3 
> kosmanor.com.hosts.bak8
> --- kosmanor.com.hosts.bad3     Mon Dec 29 15:28:06 2003
> +++ kosmanor.com.hosts.bak8     Mon Dec 29 15:28:14 2003
> @@ -1,45 +1,44 @@
>  ;
>  ; "DNS and BIND" 3rd Ed calls this a "db" file.  The description is
>  ; on page 60ff.
>  ;
>  $ttl 7200
> -kosmanor.com.  IN      SOA     kosmanor.com. kogorman.pacbell.net. (
> -                       200312037
> +kosmanor.com.  IN      SOA     treat.kosmanor.com. kogorman.pacbell.net. 
> (
> +                       200312038
>                         900
>                         7200
>                         14400
>                         1800 )
>  ;
>  ;  Nameservers
>  ;
> -kosmanor.com.  IN      NS      kosmanor.com.
> +kosmanor.com.  IN      NS      treat.kosmanor.com.
>  kosmanor.com.  IN      NS      dns3.ayuda.com.
>  kosmanor.com.  IN      NS      dns0.ayuda.com.
>  ;
>  ;  Host addresses
>  ;
> -kosmanor.com.          IN      A       64.166.164.49
> +treat.kosmanor.com.    IN      A       64.166.164.49
>  glynnis.kosmanor.com.  IN      A       64.166.164.50
>  nat.kosmanor.com.      IN      A       64.166.164.53
>  ;
>  ;  Aliases
>  ;
> -treat.kosmanor.com.    IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -alias.kosmanor.com.    IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -cilug.kosmanor.com.    IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -thlpets.kosmanor.com.  IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -hex.kosmanor.com.      IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -www.kosmanor.com.      IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> -mail.kosmanor.com.     IN      CNAME   kosmanor.com.
> +kosmanor.com.          IN      A       64.166.164.49
> +alias.kosmanor.com.    IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
> +cilug.kosmanor.com.    IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
> +thlpets.kosmanor.com.  IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
> +hex.kosmanor.com.      IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
> +www.kosmanor.com.      IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
> +mail.kosmanor.com.     IN      CNAME   treat.kosmanor.com.
>  ;
>  ;  Mail exchangers
>  ;
> -kosmanor.com.          IN      MX      10 kosmanor.com.
> -treat.kosmanor.com.    IN      MX      10 kosmanor.com.
> -glynnis.kosmanor.com.  IN      MX      10 kosmanor.com.
> +kosmanor.com.          IN      MX      10 treat.kosmanor.com.
> +glynnis.kosmanor.com.  IN      MX      10 treat.kosmanor.com.
>  ;
>  ;  Host info
>  ;
>  glynnis.kosmanor.com.  IN      HINFO   P-III Linux
>  nat.kosmanor.com.      IN      HINFO   Linksys Router
>  treat.kosmanor.com.    IN      HINFO   Dual-Xeon Linux
> [root at treat etc]#
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I've got a small domain that has all my machines, and it's working
> > > okay but I can't seem to do some of the things that I want.
> > > This mostly surrounds the resource records for the main machine,
> > > treat.kosmanor.com.
> > > 
> > > The database file contains these records right now (among others):
> > > kosmanor.com.	IN	SOA	treat.kosmanor.com. kogorman.pacbell.net. (
> > > 			200312030
> > > 			900
> > > 			7200
> > > 			14400
> > > 			1800 )
> > > kosmanor.com.	IN	NS	treat.kosmanor.com.
> > > treat.kosmanor.com.	IN	A	64.166.164.49
> > > kosmanor.com.		IN	A	64.166.164.49
> > > 
> > > This works okay, but I've been thinking to make just one of these
> > > names the canonical name.  It fails when I try.
> > > 
> > > It seems to me it would be best if "kosmanor.com" were the
> > > canonical name, because that's what goes in return addresses and
> > > such, and I use some services that are very picky about where
> > > the mail comes from.  However, if I change these lines to
> > > 
> > > kosmanor.com.	IN	SOA	kosmanor.com. kogorman.pacbell.net. (
> > > 			200312031
> > > 			900
> > > 			7200
> > > 			14400
> > > 			1800 )
> > > kosmanor.com.		IN	NS	kosmanor.com.
> > > kosmanor.com.		IN	A	64.166.164.49
> > > treat.kosmanor.com.	IN	CNAME	kosmanor.com.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Now, the nameservers cannot resolve any of the names in this domain.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This seems like it should work, but it doesn't.  Any clues?
> > > 
> > > ++ kevin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Dr. Kevin O'Gorman  (805) 756-2986  mailto:kogorman at calpoly.edu
> > > Home Page: http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kogorman
> > > 
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> -- 
> Dr. Kevin O'Gorman  (805) 756-2986  mailto:kogorman at calpoly.edu
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