OT: Here we go again ...

[dep]

quoth Terry Bassett:

| Ah, sir your rapier wit pierces me mightily. 

keep trying and you'll be able to do this, too. you're already halfway 
there.

| But have you not heard
| Ashcroft speeches to church groups, professing to stop abortions on
| religious grounds, or perhaps that sounds reseaonable to you. 

no, i haven't. i don't attend his church. perhaps you can point me to a 
transcript of one of those speeches.

| If the
| Government can rule over a womans belly then there really is no limit
| to their power. 

that is specious on its face. of course the government can rule over 
such things. the issue is the circumstance under which one is allowed 
to kill somebody else. the issue is not a woman's control over her own 
body -- her failure to do that is what created what she now perceives 
to be a problem. which isn't to say that that has anything to do with 
this list.

| It is only a tiny step to watch your bedroom or your
| living room or your outdoor activities. 

that rather depends, don't you suppose? if my outdoor activities include 
shooting random passers by, one would hope the government would get 
involved. if i spend time in my bedroom building bombs, the government 
has an interest in that, too.

|All of which can be done under the current Patriot Act. 

absolutely not so.

| Ascroft's church speech was on C-span  as I recall. 

i have no reason to supoose your recollection is better than your 
reasoning.

|The neo-America is the one I live in today.  It was not
| born because of 9/11 but of events a few days later, when the
| decisions were made to create the new entity of Homeland security. 
| It is the extremely powerful new form of counter-terrorism formed to
| be used here in America, in the name of National Security.  The CIA
| now has its own private Army.  The last time they had a private army,
| they ended up to their necks in the Golden Triangle drug trade and
| even weather modification experiments in Southeast Asia.  Things have
| already ran out of control is what I am saying.  Currently further
| additions to the Patriot Act are in the offing and will only make the
| neo-America harder to remove from power.

jeeezus! what a steaming heap of paranoid raving! there is not a shred 
of evidence anywhere to support any of the above. 

|     And, yes I wrote a mis-formed sentence, if you read it as though
| I was here at the start of the Republic.  My relatives were though,
| maybe I just feel a certain ownership towards the America of my
| ancestors and would like to pass on the essence of that America to my
| children.

well, i'll see you and raise you fifty as d.a.r. fodder, which is beside 
the point. nobody fought and died for this country to make it possible 
for ill-informed pantywaists to whine and lie about their country.

but this thread was about microsoft corporation. you might want to take 
the other part of the discussion to 
alt.paranoia.when.geeks.think.they.are.cool.
-- 
dep

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