Ive been listed in list.dsbl.org - how do I configure so as t o get unlisted

[Collins Richey]

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:53:05 -0700 
Condon Thomas A KPWA <tcondon at kpt.nuwc.navy.mil> wrote:

> Collins Richey wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 11:40:58 -0600
> > Andrew Mathews <andrew_mathews at linux-works.org> wrote:
> >> And the alternative is? They have to fight an ever escalating
> >battle> with the spammers, who, by the way, don't seem to give a shit
> >about> "innocent" users either. They're fighting fire with fire, and
> >> unfortunately, some people are caught in the middle. But if you're
> >> blaming the Sysadmins or DNSBL's for your woes, you're blaming the
> >> wrong people. If the friggin' spammers weren't being the abusive
> >> assholes that they are, NONE of this would be necessary. It's like
> >> saying "Don't back that fire truck over my flower bed! I'd rather
> >let> the fire burn down my house!" 

Not at all, it's like saying that a black Saturn has been terrorizing
the neighborhood, so I can't drive through the neighborhood because I
happen to drive a black Saturn.  I certainly will blame any Sysadmin who
can't take the trouble to determine that I am a legitimate user, even
though other users in my ip address range are not.  I don't like spam
any better than the rest of you (I delete the 10-20 a day that I
receive), but there's no spam coming out of my computer, and I'll be
damned if you'll convince me that I should just accept being blocked and
lump it!


> 
> My ISP recently undertook to remove some of our spam by blacklisting
> certain providers.  However, he sent requests to their help desks
> first to see if they would do anything about it.  He only blacklisted
> those that refused to either answer the queries or do anything about
> the problem.  The result from my point of view has been that 80% of my
> spam stopped by the end of the week that he was doing this.
> 

> Perhaps if the penalty for spamming was severe enough it would reduce
> the threat.  Say, incarceration for 10-20 years for knowingly
> participating, loss of internet access privileges for 2 years for
> unknowingly participating(with that elevating to a knowing
> participation if you abused the loss and/or got "used" again).  Yeah,
> throw them in the pen with the "real" crackers!
> 

This would help, but you'd need to put most M$ users in the pen,
because they haven't a clue, whereas you really should be imprisoning
the Billygoat who makes this all possible.

-- 
Collins Richey - Denver Area
if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the 
worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.