spam issues
ronnie gauthier
ronnieg
Mon May 17 11:50:17 PDT 2004
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:57:47 -0400 - Matthew Carpenter <matt at eisgr.com> wrote
the following
Re: Re: spam issues
I agree with you in theory but all RBL's are not equal. But what I've seen is
that once on one its a bitch to get unlisted. They also get legitimate web sites
in the same block as the spammer.
We got RBL'd once. It was a nightmare. Ya, it was our fault, we were open for a
bit but the result was that even after the block was lifted we were still
blocked at many domains and had to contact them individualy. I remember it took
forever to get IBM to unblock us. That is a lesson not forgotten. That is why I
chose to block by domain.
>RBL's are still better than SA or other filters...
>
>Why? Because properly selected RBL's (ie. Deterministic, easy to get off of)
>actually allow you to block based on a PROBLEM! RBL's that you want to use
>are Open Relay black lists and Dialup server blacklists. These are PROBLEMS
>to be FIXED. They aren't attempting to look for the appropriate number of
>"Free" and "XXX" in the email, which could be used in real life email.
>
>I have been blocked before. I used to administer a GroupWise system that was
>difficult to lock down. This was before I learned about RBL's. They
>rightfully flagged my server as an Open Relay (anyone can send email to
>anywhere/anyone) and when I checked the server, we had a HUGE backlog of
>emails which the spammers had sent to anyone and everyone. We got the server
>configured correctly and then got off the RBL. It was inconvenient, but RBL's
>are a real part of a good strategy against SPAM, and will be around for as
>long as SPAM is around. And this is why.
>
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