Zaire still won't connect

[Joel Hammer]

Well, point taken. As I recall, I did have pilot-link before I upgraded
lindows, which had to be done so the visor and other modules would work
with the PDA. My original problem was my kernel was a tiny bit premature
to talk properly to the palm over usb. Not that the kernel said so,
it just was so.

Since pilot-link is essential, you would think that jpilot or kpilot,
both of which I tried, would have detected the lack of this item and
complained about it. The documentation may point this out. It is a shame
their software doesn't when it runs. I guess somebody saved themselves
some time when they coded jpilot. If they were a profit making company,
they would not have shrugged and said let them read the documentation. 

I have had enuf of trying to make this thing work. I think I am just
getting to the end of my rope with some of this nonsense.  There comes
a time when you have to ask yourself, why I am having to do so much work
to get something very simple to work? The answer in this case is linux.

Joel


Jul 12, 2003 at 07:47:33PM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
> On 07/12/03 18:36, Joel Hammer wrote:
> > I don't have pilot-link. Do I need it?
> 
> I know nothing about palm pilots.  I've never owned one, and never used 
> one.  I spent 3 minutes Googling and found numerous references to the 
> requirement that pilot-link be installed & functional before you can access 
> a palm pilot in Linux.  Of course about 1 of those three minutes was trying 
> to figure out what the heck a 'Zaire' was, until i realized that you meant 
> Zire.  For your edification:
> http://snovae.in2p3.fr/ycopin/soft/zire.html
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/62164
> http://www.slac.com/pilone/kpilot_home/hardware.html
> 
> and last, but certainly not least, the official jpilot documentation where 
> pilot-link is explicitly specified as a prerequisite:
> http://www.henrikbecker.mynetcologne.de/jpilot/jpilot-manual-en-2.html#ss2.1
> 
> > I downloaded Ximian Evolution.  It won't work with the palm because I
> > need some gnome tools.
> > 
> > Grrr....
> > 
> > Oh well, I will just have to not use my  palm for a few months/years
> > longer. I am getting fond of pcal. I will not bother with this problem
> > anymore. I have at least 30 hours of my time invested, all wasted.
> 
> Perhaps it wouldn't have been had you spent a few minutes reading the 
> documentation.
> 
> > I'll skip my usual rant. Not worth it. But, its worth noting in passing
> > that linux developers wrote devfs without getting any input from
> > me. I would have told them to make all handhelds plug and play with
> > linux before they fix something that wasn't broken. That is, if they
> > are serious about getting linux on the desktop, which apparently they
> > are not. I would never recommend linux to the average user because of
> > shortcomings like this. This is a show stopper.
> 
> No.  Not reading documentation is the show stopper.  PEBCAK.
> 
> > It is hard not to get the impression that linux is a place where
> > adolescents like to play. For example, going though the warehouse at
> > Lindows, I noted that there were pages of mp3 players and cd rippers. But,
> > there are only two office suites. One staroffice, which came out of a
> > commercial background and was a free gift (charity) to the opensource
> > movement and is a serious package. The other is koffice, the opensource
> > answer to MS. I have never found Koffice useful.  Don't linux advocates
> > get worried ?
> 
> Only about FUD mongers.  Some people deserve windoze.
> 
> > Bill Gates must sleep well at night.
> 
> i'm sure he does.
> 
> > 
> > Joel
> > 
> > P.S. This wasn't the rant. I erased that.
> 
> you sure fooled me.
> 
> 
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